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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2008, 08:08:48 PM »
Let me know when your ready to flip it,well get it done.

GT Jets

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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2008, 08:14:04 PM »
Hey Ralph, the bottom and strake design looks identical to White Trash's bottom, my pump is set back about 3" from the stock position, how much is yours?

Nice job BTW.

I made an attatchment to put on my engine stand, works really well, now I have a taller stand, you can put the bow eye through it and viola, one person can flip the boat in about ten minutes, I use a 2"X3" spreader bar on the rear transome eyes and I use the cherry picker to lift the rear.

GT
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2008, 08:19:10 AM »
Hey Ralph, the bottom and strake design looks identical to White Trash's bottom, my pump is set back about 3" from the stock position, how much is yours?

Nice job BTW.

I made an attatchment to put on my engine stand, works really well, now I have a taller stand, you can put the bow eye through it and viola, one person can flip the boat in about ten minutes, I use a 2"X3" spreader bar on the rear transome eyes and I use the cherry picker to lift the rear.

GT

GT you need to post some photos of your contraption.  We all need this kind of advice when it comes to moving hulls around.  Can't always get good help if any.

Ralph,  looks good, did you place the bunk rails under the boat's stringers?

Greg
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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2008, 05:45:35 PM »
no there are only 2 rails on the dolly and i put them on the boat where it sits on the trailer. i will probably add 2 more rails cuz i just dont like the way it is now
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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2008, 05:50:54 PM »
GT you need to post some photos of your contraption.  We all need this kind of advice when it comes to moving hulls around.  Can't always get good help if any.

Ralph,  looks good, did you place the bunk rails under the boat's stringers?

Greg

Will do!  ;D
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Ray

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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2008, 06:02:51 PM »
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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2008, 06:19:47 PM »
no there are only 2 rails on the dolly and i put them on the boat where it sits on the trailer. i will probably add 2 more rails cuz i just dont like the way it is now

That is exactly how mine sat for months. 2 rails are fine i think ..   I pushed it all over the patio that way, now my dolly is my work bench with wheels ;D
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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2008, 06:23:21 PM »
That is exactly how mine sat for months. 2 rails are fine i think ..   I pushed it all over the patio that way, now my dolly is my work bench with wheels ;D

That too damn short for me for a work bench.  LMAO  :D :D :D
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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2008, 02:43:45 AM »
progress :banghead:


this crack just kept growing :banghead: we got it ground down about as much as we can now we will reinforce it from the inside and build it up on the outside.

there is nothing stranger than taking a grinder to your boat :o this is where we started to have problems :banghead: :mad: when we tried to fill the groove with glass it just kept on wanting to pop out of the V. so we mixed the resin so it would kick faster and that didn't work. i was using mat at first then we tried cloth, still didnt work :banghead: so we gave up and i came home and started reading the forums and from what i can tell we don't have a large enough working area. So i will feather the groove out about an inch above and below the groove and see if that helps. I know why these guys get the big $$ to cap a boat now. we will get it eventually :-\



« Last Edit: December 07, 2008, 03:33:17 AM by Ralph Brunt »
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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2008, 08:06:01 AM »
 Progress is right check out Pops hard at work,looks like he love doing what he does.

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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2008, 09:54:29 AM »
progress :banghead:

this crack just kept growing :banghead: we got it ground down about as much as we can now we will reinforce it from the inside and build it up on the outside.
there is nothing stranger than taking a grinder to your boat :o this is where we started to have problems :banghead: :mad: when we tried to fill the groove with glass it just kept on wanting to pop out of the V. so we mixed the resin so it would kick faster and that didn't work. i was using mat at first then we tried cloth, still didnt work :banghead: so we gave up and i came home and started reading the forums and from what i can tell we don't have a large enough working area. So i will feather the groove out about an inch above and below the groove and see if that helps. I know why these guys get the big $$ to cap a boat now. we will get it eventually :-\

Hey Ralph, impressive progress for such a short period of time.

As far as the capping is concerned, go grab youself a jar of Cab-O-Sil, it's basically ground up fiberglass and it's used to thicken the resin without weakening it, it will also work on the cracks that you talk about, use a resperator though it's nasty chit.

On those spider cracks, use a die grinder to trace out the hairlines and eliminate all traces that way, sometimes you will go all the way through which sucks but the fix is to use the blue masking tape on the underside of the cracks to keep the resin from flowing through, use the resin and Cab-O-Sil  first, let it kick, rough it up, unless you're using laminating resin and then go back over it with light matt, cloth is OK but sometimes too uniform to work with.. Looks good so far, sometimes the hardest part is not getting frustrated.

GT
« Last Edit: December 07, 2008, 12:45:04 PM by GT Jets »
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Ray

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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2008, 11:38:11 AM »
thanx GT thats a big help ;)
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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2008, 11:11:17 PM »
looks like fun!!!

let us know when it needs to get flipped!!
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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2008, 12:40:31 AM »
Ralph, just another idea.  When we capped my old boat many years ago we used something called micro spheres (I believe) as a filler.  It was tiny little balls of glass and when mixed with the resin it was the consistency of bondo.  It is very strong stuff !!  After something like 5yrs I only have one crack (from an incident with an out of control dock).  It might work good for straightening the bottom too.
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Welcome to the club of broken boats :o  Pay here$ bend over and move along.

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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2008, 07:06:43 PM »
Looks great Ralph.  Having just gone thru this, if there's anything I can do to lend some advice, please let me know. I don't know what I'm doing but it turned out okay and you and your pops are such craftsmen, I'm certain it's gonna be badass.

For the record,  I went single stage on the bottom and base/clear on the sides and top like what HD mentioned and am really happy.  I also agree with what GT and Proppy said about mixing in some additives in the resin. I used Collidial Silica for the bulk of the high strength glassing/fillin and then went with the microballons to finsh the shaping. 

Good luck and keep the pics coming..........john

« Last Edit: December 09, 2008, 07:11:21 PM by jrork »
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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2008, 07:40:09 PM »
so whats the colors gonna be ralph
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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2009, 11:46:07 AM »
Any Progress?
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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #42 on: April 05, 2010, 06:54:19 PM »
Any Progress?
i guess its time to get this off of page 3, as many of you know i bought a house last year so the boat had to sit and wait. I got a new air compressor last week

and that was one of our major hurdles. ya just cant do fiberglass work with a 25 gallon compressor.

after much thought and conversations with my wife about the color we have decided to paint it the same color as it was just to preserve what it was. I dont know if i will ever race it again (dave bryant thing really focking me up) but none the less i cant take its former glory from it. so i will put it back together in race form and we will have to see.

i will take pics and ask ???'s as i go.
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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #43 on: April 05, 2010, 07:09:35 PM »
From my texts today, from my bud, they're still unsure what failed. "Mechanical failure of some sort" is all the family knows. Curt came to work this morning looking like shit, his wife and daughter at Dave's house I guess. I sent him home after an hour. Wish I had met the guy!

I can certainly understand the fear Ralph, but that should NOT stop you from doing what you love to do. From what I understand, Dave woulda said the same thing..........

Ray
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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #44 on: April 05, 2010, 08:25:17 PM »
Whaddya doin' with the old compressor? Mine's louder than an alley full of tomcats on a full moon.
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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #45 on: April 06, 2010, 06:05:58 AM »
GET TO WORK!
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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #46 on: April 25, 2010, 07:26:02 AM »
WARNING...if you have a boat in this bad of shape do NOT try to repair it.... take a chain saw to it and get another hull :'(
this used to be a fuel fill








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Brad @ SCJB

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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #47 on: April 25, 2010, 07:32:50 AM »
good job gettin crackin on yo shit!
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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #48 on: April 25, 2010, 07:48:15 AM »
looks good but the prep sanding is the worst part of the whole proscess blocking sucks good luck :thumbup:
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Re: getting ready for paint
« Reply #49 on: April 25, 2010, 08:00:03 AM »
Good work, Get-Er-Done.  :thumbup:
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