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steves86ta

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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #75 on: May 05, 2015, 09:32:48 AM »
Feeling a little bit under the weather, but went home last night and got the tanks glassed back into place. I think they came out pretty clean. There are 3 layers of 7.5 ounce fabric, when it started to kick last night i tried to move the tanks around and they felt pretty solid. If they move around at all later on, ill glass in some mounts and make a different moutning system. But im pretty sure this will be plenty.

The half that is raw aluminum (well glassed over aluminum) will be painted gloss black to match the top half. Im undecided if im going to carpet the bottom half of the tanks or not. Probably mock it up and see how it looks.

First layer down



And Done, 3 layers on both, and the fronts of the tanks have about 4 layers, the rear about 3








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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #76 on: May 05, 2015, 09:37:47 AM »
Looking good Steve. Looks like your feeling better lol


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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #77 on: May 05, 2015, 09:38:47 AM »
Looking good Steve. Looks like your feeling better lol


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No actually LOL..
And im pretty damn sure huffin all that resin last night did wonders on my throat. its killing me today. But i was motivated haha
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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #78 on: May 05, 2015, 09:39:59 AM »

No actually LOL..
And im pretty damn sure huffin all that resin last night did wonders on my throat. its killing me today. But i was motivated haha
Looks that way lol, hope you get well soon


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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #79 on: May 06, 2015, 08:32:47 AM »
I wouldnt be able to get this boat together without the help from my father. Hes helped without question and i cant thank him enough.

I got off of work yesterday and was feeling pretty shitty so i went over to the gf's house and just went to bed. He texted me and he finished laying the carpet out.

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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #80 on: May 07, 2015, 09:05:01 AM »
Finished the carpet up last night and turned to tackling the wiring before the interior goes in. Im not a fan of the wiring thats in the boat. Its old, spliced, cut, and just in general bad shape. So im going to re-wire this thing.

Til i get the wiring from ebay. I started mounting the MSD and the fuel pump



It will be bolted to the transom, jut the fuel pump outweighs the MSD box so it kept falling forward. Also the bolts will be shortened and the pump rubber mounted

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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #81 on: May 07, 2015, 09:42:15 AM »
Try some 7-way trailer cord. It's all jacketed like an extension cord. Used that on the Hondo I had, came out clean.
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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #82 on: May 07, 2015, 10:12:16 AM »
Try some 7-way trailer cord. It's all jacketed like an extension cord. Used that on the Hondo I had, came out clean.

Thats not a bad idea, but i need more than 7 wires :-(

just for signal wires
tach
volt
oil pressure
oil temp
water temp
water pressure (just because i have to many holes in the dash)
fuel pressure
MSD Power wire
12 volt power
12 volt ground
bilge wires

and im sure im missing some
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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #83 on: May 07, 2015, 10:18:37 AM »
If you wanted to go that route, could run 2. I think it's around $1.30 a foot. I know Colton Truck has it.
If you did go that route, but the black, not green. They damn near doible the price for green since it's for ABS on trailers
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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #84 on: May 07, 2015, 10:44:57 AM »
Thats not a bad idea, but i need more than 7 wires :-(


and im sure im missing some

starter?

Any of the pressure gauges mechanical?
water press?
fuel press?
oil press?

Is MSD going to be on a relay?

I used the 7 wire trailer cord and worked good. (Napa)
I believe 9 wire cord is available, too.

Dan'l
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steves86ta

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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #85 on: May 07, 2015, 10:52:23 AM »
starter?

Any of the pressure gauges mechanical?
water press?
fuel press?
oil press?

Is MSD going to be on a relay?

I used the 7 wire trailer cord and worked good. (Napa)
I believe 9 wire cord is available, too.

Dan'l

According to the install manual from MSD they dont recommend using a relay. Just a fused 12 volt.The Fuel pump will be on a relay all the guages are electrical

I just ordered 9 different color spools of wiring off of ebay (price couldn't be beat) and a few relays/terminal blocks from McMaster Carr

I want to put the harness in that wire loom that kayotk used in his bahner. BUT that shit is not cheap. I think ill just use normal old conduit.

The gauge sending units will go in the wire harness from the MSD to control the coils, crank and cam sensor. So i will not have the normal terminal block you see at the back of the intake.
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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #86 on: May 07, 2015, 10:53:18 AM »
The MSD won't need a relay. It uses a signal wire to turn on and off and the power it uses comes directly from the battery on the two 12ga Black and Red wires.

If you want to be legit you gotta do some concentric twisting of the wires.

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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #87 on: May 07, 2015, 11:01:20 AM »
The MSD won't need a relay. It uses a signal wire to turn on and off and the power it uses comes directly from the battery on the two 12ga Black and Red wires.

If you want to be legit you gotta do some concentric twisting of the wires.


Thats what i thought.

Planned on twisting my wires

What tape is that?
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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #88 on: May 07, 2015, 11:05:49 AM »
Thats what i thought.

Planned on twisting my wires

What tape is that?

Kapton tape. It keeps adhesive shrink from grabbing the wires and some guys use it hold harnesses together while they are building them.

https://www.rbracing-rsr.com/wiring_ecu.html
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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #89 on: May 07, 2015, 11:13:35 AM »
Kapton tape. It keeps adhesive shrink from grabbing the wires and some guys use it hold harnesses together while they are building them.

https://www.rbracing-rsr.com/wiring_ecu.html

wow...... WAY SO MUCH INFORMATION THAT IS WAYYYYYYYY OVER MY HEAD but cool shit none-the-less lol thanks for the link
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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #90 on: May 07, 2015, 11:21:06 AM »
I just noticed you appear to have a machined/fabricated valley pan. Did that motor come with an LS7 style valley cover with a built in PCV?
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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #91 on: May 07, 2015, 11:28:20 AM »
I just noticed you appear to have a machined/fabricated valley pan. Did that motor come with an LS7 style valley cover with a built in PCV?

The engine i have is techinically an LFA (2010-2012 Hybrid Tahoe, Yukon, etc) being such it had the factory Variable Valve Timing and Active Fuel Management. It is essentially an Aluminum LQ9, but with me putting th e243 heads on it, deleting the VVT and AFM it is now a normal LS2.

The valley cover is an OEM piece for a 4.8 part number 12598832 it blocks off the AFM and has a port on the back for the factory oil pressure switch (i run an adapter for a normal oil psi switch). It also does not have the holes in it for the knock sensor being a 4.8 piece., I paid 35 dollars for it on Ebay and it came with the gasket and bolts



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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #92 on: May 07, 2015, 11:48:26 AM »
Ahh. I didn't realize your engine had displacement on demand.

I need a valley pan with the PCV built in so I can use pretty valve covers. I am going to build a bracket to mount the coils to the factory engine mount area to keep them hidden a little and keep them away from exhaust heat. I will need the knock sensors...
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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #93 on: May 07, 2015, 11:51:26 AM »
Ahh. I didn't realize your engine had displacement on demand.

I need a valley pan with the PCV built in so I can use pretty valve covers. I am going to build a bracket to mount the coils to the factory engine mount area to keep them hidden a little and keep them away from exhaust heat. I will need the knock sensors...

Ahh yeah... im sticking with stock  valve covers for right now...

I dont know if this matters or not. But i will say the research ive done and what ive heard is that the LS engines really dont need to breathe much at all... just an fyi

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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #94 on: May 08, 2015, 05:37:56 PM »
All this talk of valley covers reminded me... We had a G8 motor come in the other day and I noticed the LS3 valley plate has provisions to block off Active Displacement, has an oil pressure fitting and has a breather tube with baffles.  Here's a link with a pic...

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/nal-12599296?seid=srese1&gclid=CLr9ifSws8UCFROVfgod85AAfg

Just make sure you put all 8 o-rings in the cover, or better yet tap the AD oil feeds and install pipe plugs.  Customer had low oil pressure with oil consumption and smoking on hard acceleration.  Sounds like a whipped motor but was actually missing a few of those o-rings.  Oil was squirting into the PCV and filling the intake!  Replaced those o-rings, cleaned the intake and whadayaknow... oil pressure shot up and smoking stopped.
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« Reply #95 on: May 08, 2015, 06:24:01 PM »
Sounds like a good way to get a good motor for cheap.
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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #96 on: May 12, 2015, 08:58:49 AM »
got a lot done this weekend. And i still spent all mothers day not working on the boat  :thumbup:  O0  >:D
"When momma aint happy aint nobody happy"

Friday the rest of the parts came in to get the jet together. So i went home and started on it. First part was scrubbing it down with degreaser and getting it as clean as possible. That was annoying to say the least. I think the rear bearing seal was bad on my pump because grease was everywhere.

After it was cleaned i went ahead and installed the wear ring i got from HTP Performance. I went with an Ultimate Wear Ring. I know some people frown upon it but in my case it seemed the best or easiest option. Easy to install and since the plan is to have a pump built next year i figured i would give this a shot. And some people love them some dont (imo its like a ford vs chevy thing)

It went in easily needed a little persuasion but other than that it fit nicely. Once in (and after talking to Duayne at HTP) i set it up with about .025 front clearance and it had about .020 overall side clearance



I will say, i did enjoy building the pump and it wasnt to bad to do at all

First coat of primer


I couldnt stand the way the impeller looked, so i sprayed it with some ceramic flat black paint




After about 4 coats of Gloss black Epoxy paint and about 4 coats of clear it looks pretty nice if i say so my self





Got the pump set in the boat. I used a gasket on the suction housing to intake, and silicone on the transom adapter. New Stainless bolts/nuts and washers.






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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #97 on: May 12, 2015, 09:07:24 AM »
Yesterday i was off from work. Had court for the kiddo. So after court i made some progress on the boat.

Got the bowl drilled and tapped for the cradle from HTP Performance, I also got hardware for the cable connections to the pump.





Obviously im going to need to make a longer ride plate. It is about 1/2" to short  :banghead:

I couldnt stand the way the battery switch looked when i got it, so i tore it apart and painted it



I also cleaned the coils and painted them


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« Reply #98 on: May 12, 2015, 09:25:38 AM »
Sat down and made the rest of the plate for the electronics on the right side of the transom (MSD Box, fuel pump, Fuel pump relay, battery cut off switch)



In case you were wondering, it is all drilled and tapped for the screws holding everything on.

I installed the Rail Kit Rails, the bilge pump (need to get hose then it will be done), Made the fuel lines from the tank to a seperator (will be mounted on the transom above the jet under the gunnel, Polished the aluminum trim pieces that were on the side of the boat. Might make another one for the rear of the boat, Re-Installed the fuel fills, things are starting to come together! Seat brackets were installed and seats put in.







Yes, i know the seats are filthy. Ill  clean them shortly



One thing im asking for opinons on is whether or not i should paint the bottom half of the gas tanks black like originally planned. Heres a picture of how they currently look.



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Re: 1970 Weiman
« Reply #99 on: May 12, 2015, 09:25:11 PM »
Whats your plan on the head steam tubes? I found some nice adapters on eBay, and after examining the factory cooling system it looks like just plumbing them to exit somewhere on the transom is all that is needed.
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