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sevans01

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76 Sanger project
« on: October 29, 2013, 07:10:18 PM »
First full day of work, with many more to come

Removed gauges, steering, forward/reverse, pump, and the rest of the carpet under the bow.

Next on the list remove intake, sub floor, stingers, give a good wash, then start sanding
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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2013, 10:04:36 PM »
I'd try to save the gel on it before shooting it with paint


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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2013, 10:18:08 PM »
It is saveable

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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2013, 10:19:32 PM »

I'd try to save the gel on it before shooting it with paint


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 x2 little color sand and buff will make that thing bitchen again. So what if there's a re scratches on it. 👍👍


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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2013, 01:05:03 PM »
As much as the colors are kinda growing on me. I'm not too sure it's savable, we'll have to see.


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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2013, 01:09:46 PM »
Based on the pictures if a good color sand and buff doesn't bring it back you can always just have a clear shot over it. Bam all shiny again. Thing would look awesome if it was restored to its retro styling


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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2013, 05:15:34 PM »
Removed floor and found pizza dough.

There's more behind the bulkhead

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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2013, 05:34:27 PM »
lookin good!  an angle grinder with a wire wheel will have that floor lookin clean in no time!  love the progress pix!  ^-^
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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2013, 08:05:00 PM »
Are those stripes gel coat?  They look like paint to me.  If they're paint, they may not be easily salvageable, at least not like new.  Nice looking project though.
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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2013, 06:12:47 AM »
Sanger generally did a single color lay up and painted the seam area in lacquer.  That's why it's common to see the painted areas around the fuel fillers  jacked up.

Good start to what looks like an ambitious project  :o  Good luck and looking forward to the progress pics.
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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2013, 10:01:10 AM »
Another problem Sangers had, is they tend to crack under the drivers seat. Looks like a line there along the strake. Is that a seam in the glass or a crack?
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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2013, 10:51:08 AM »
Thanks for everyone's tips! This hole project is going to be a learning process for me.
The stripes are painted on like crewchief stated. I'm not a paint guy so I don't know if the stripes can be sanded down to get to the gel, or just paint over em. I haven't found any cracks in the hull. There are some areas along the bottom where the glass is thin from I would think beaching it.


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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2013, 11:26:34 AM »
No cracks thats good.
The beaching has probably just worn through the gel so the light shines through.
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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2013, 10:11:06 PM »
Thanks for everyone's tips! This hole project is going to be a learning process for me.
The stripes are painted on like crewchief stated. I'm not a paint guy so I don't know if the stripes can be sanded down to get to the gel, or just paint over em. I haven't found any cracks in the hull. There are some areas along the bottom where the glass is thin from I would think beaching it.


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You should be able to just sand them off.  Otherwise I would shoot a sealer coat over them before applying any paint.  Today's paints are much different than the paints were back them.  They're more sensitive and can do weird things if the prep isn't right. If your not doing your own paint work, I'm sure your painter will have a handle on dealing with them.  Since there's no historical value in trying to save this paint scheme, I would just make it what ever you want it to be.
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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2013, 07:43:48 PM »
Close up of paint. After thinking about it, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get rid of the stripes


Before I get a little to far ahead of myself. I'd like to get some input/opinions. I've been throwing the idea around in my head about full length stringers. 1/4 stringers in it now seem to be in great shape. I'm not putting in a big hp eng. when this thing is done. I guess full length is not necessary unless producing big power. True? Another thing that the hamster has been spinning is. Setting back the pump. I know I'll have to reglass the intake, which equals a lot of work. Would it all be worth it?
From what I've read so far is that Sanger purpose a lot depending on set up. Would putting full stringers and setting the pump back help with the purpose? 
When I get home I'll get a snap a couple pics of the stringers.
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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2013, 08:10:27 PM »
Well, if it were me? I would do the stringers. But I've done a few sets. Just takes time and a lot of work.
The set back..... Is that Sanger a delta pad?? If so, I wouldn't do it. Are you going to pull the intake and have it cut for a shoe and ride plate???


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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2013, 08:37:34 PM »

The set back..... Is that Sanger a delta pad?? If so, I wouldn't do it. Are you going to pull the intake and have it cut for a shoe and ride plate???


I'll have to get back to you about the delta pad. Shoe and ride plate are on the list to have done
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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2013, 10:11:13 PM »
SuperJets are a delta pad hull
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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2013, 11:08:49 AM »

SuperJets are a delta pad hull

Cool, thanks for the info!
Out of curiosity. How's your boat set up/ ride?


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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2013, 11:26:34 AM »
I have a mild(very) 460 ford and a newly rebuilt pump. I only took it out once this summer and changed the plate angle. With the old set up. The plate was 1 degree down and the boat rode very wet at almost 75(gps confirmed) the season I raised the plate to 1 degree up and the boat freed up a ton. No gps numbers because it was a holiday weekend and the water was a little rough. I also attribute the wet ride to the fact that I have a bit of water logged foam under my sub floor. This summer I plan to really do some hardware adjustments(money allowing) I would like to hit 80. Which I hope isn't to much of a stretch.


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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2013, 11:27:21 AM »
Also im running a standard rock grate


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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2013, 01:36:50 PM »

I have a mild(very) 460 ford and a newly rebuilt pump. I only took it out once this summer and changed the plate angle. With the old set up. The plate was 1 degree down and the boat rode very wet at almost 75(gps confirmed) the season I raised the plate to 1 degree up and the boat freed up a ton. No gps numbers because it was a holiday weekend and the water was a little rough. I also attribute the wet ride to the fact that I have a bit of water logged foam under my sub floor. This summer I plan to really do some hardware adjustments(money allowing) I would like to hit 80. Which I hope isn't to much of a stretch.


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Cool thanks for the info!


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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2013, 02:44:09 PM »
If your looking to go fast Sevans I have a 871 with a ford manifold on my bench


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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2013, 02:52:57 PM »
Also if you are in fact looking to go fast. Check your hull. Almost all Superjets I have seen have a slight hook in them, mine included. That will have to go


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Re: 76 Sanger project
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2013, 07:40:23 PM »
Also if you are in fact looking to go fast. Check your hull. Almost all Superjets I have seen have a slight hook in them, mine included. That will have to go


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 time for me to man-up and ask....
 I have heard lots of you speak of a hook in the hull,
 what (so a nube would understand) is this  ?    :screwy:
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