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GT Jets

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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2010, 06:17:34 PM »
make sure to rough everything you intend to stick glass to with a minimum of 36 grit sand paper then cleen with acatone before laying glass/resin

X2 but clean with MEK..... :thumbup:

Acetone is a good solvent, but dries/evaporates too damn fast to do a good job, the toweling dry process is what really cleans, not the solvent action... :thumbup:

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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2010, 06:24:20 PM »
never even thought of the mek, i will give it a try next time as well ;)
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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2010, 06:25:32 PM »
is MEK something i can pick up at home depot or is that a specialty thing?
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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2010, 06:28:37 PM »
is MEK something i can pick up at home depot or is that a specialty thing?

I think the Depot carries it by the mineral spirits... :sly: Get a gallon, it goes fast..... :screwy:

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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2010, 06:33:31 PM »
I think the Depot carries it by the mineral spirits... :sly: Get a gallon, it goes fast..... :screwy:

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yup i remember seeing it there
methel ethel keytone, i think
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They are all fukin tasty. My long time favorite, "Dirty Dicks -beerjet-
Glasscutter, Skip, OC2  Nordie and many more nail me good every time, relentlessly, I love those guys!

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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2010, 06:37:31 PM »
yup i remember seeing it there
methel ethel keytone, i think

Joo Got it mane. O0
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Just Electric

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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2010, 09:38:21 PM »
osh sells it in the gallon form ;D and cheaper then home de pot
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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2010, 10:29:59 PM »
C'mon guys..I've used acetone forever on glass...it works...never tried the other stuff. Ican through my apron and thongs on and show u around the depo. ;D
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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2010, 10:50:36 PM »
C'mon guys..I've used acetone forever on glass...it works...never tried the other stuff. Ican through my apron and thongs on and show u around the depo. ;D

Never said acetone does not "work"......Sheese, tough crowd  :sly:


I said MEK work mo betta  O0

Gives you plenty of working time and not as combustible....Evaporates more slowly and gives you a chance to "wipe dry" doing more actual cleaning... :thumbup: :thumbup:


Please don't mention wearing your thong and an apron again........I puked in my mouth a little... :P

 ;D

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Ray

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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #34 on: November 02, 2010, 10:55:10 PM »
GT! I never tried the stuff..  You never tried my apron/thong either...where is OMAR :-*
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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2010, 12:48:21 AM »
Dave is Orange to the Core!  ;D

Yes, HD sells MEK. Yes, I agree with Glenn it works much better than Acetone. Not only less toxic, but lets you hit the areas with a scrub brush, THEN wipe it up. Learning all this fiberglass work myself, and my Paint Manager put me onto this method..........he's a boater, but not to the extreme the rest of us are!  :thumbup:

I'll post pics of his Eliminator one of these days. Not a jet, but a bad ass boat none the less!  :thumbup:

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wizard612

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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #36 on: November 03, 2010, 01:18:42 PM »
Acetone or MEK both known carcinigins (sp?) ventilate very well and use the right cartriges in your mask. You might want to get a powered ventilation mask. How are you beefing up the bottom? Even though the old balsa core looked great when new, it also added sigificant stiffness to the hull with very little weight penalty given the layup schedule that Liberty used. With that all out now the hull is actually very thin.  Are you ging to a core material between glass or just adding abunch of glass?
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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #37 on: November 03, 2010, 01:27:36 PM »
Acetone or MEK both known carcinigins (sp?) ventilate very well and use the right cartriges in your mask. You might want to get a powered ventilation mask. How are you beefing up the bottom? Even though the old balsa core looked great when new, it also added sigificant stiffness to the hull with very little weight penalty given the layup schedule that Liberty used. With that all out now the hull is actually very thin.  Are you ging to a core material between glass or just adding abunch of glass?

I am just laying down a few layers of cloth in the rear 1/4 where the balsa was.
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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #38 on: November 03, 2010, 09:07:38 PM »
I got all 41 holes in the stringers filled tonight and epoxy'd the base of the stringers down.

For the holes I just bought wooden dowels and used plane jane resin to coat them and stuff them in the holes.





For the stringer bonding, I used West System's Six10. http://www.westsystem.com/ss/six10-introduction/

This stuff is sweet. Its about $20 a tube and I used 2 tubes. Its comes in a caulk tube and mixes in this crazy maze in the nozzle. Whats nice about this is that it comes out with some pressure so I was able to inject it so to speak up under the stringer wood and into holes/pits.... and you could see the wood getting "wet" right when it hit it, so it was absorbing well into it to make a strong bond. Tomorrow I will be laying 6oz glass cloth over the whole rear 1/4 of the boat to re-glass the stringers down. I will be using west systems epoxy 105 w/ 206 hardener.





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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #39 on: November 03, 2010, 09:17:14 PM »
 That's some time consuming work your doing their  :thumbup: looks good.   

enginedoctor

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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #40 on: November 03, 2010, 09:45:40 PM »
Good work Brad...hope you have help...shit load of work. Wish I was there for ya bud...but I'm in Califukya ???
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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2010, 08:12:27 AM »
Nice work Brad! Keep it up, we'll be out at the Thanksgiving race, so let me know you need any help.
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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #42 on: November 04, 2010, 09:53:24 AM »
I have no pit crew confirmed to come and help out.....so, yes, I can use all the help I can get.  :thumbup:
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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #43 on: November 04, 2010, 10:48:16 AM »
I have no pit crew confirmed to come and help out.....so, yes, I can use all the help I can get.  :thumbup:


Ok cool well as it gets closer just let me know, I'd be good for help on Friday or Saturday but probably not both, just PM me to let me know what you need help with.
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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2010, 06:31:07 PM »
I have no pit crew confirmed to come and help out.....so, yes, I can use all the help I can get.  :thumbup:

I'm supposed to be staying at Emerald Cove the whole week, so if I can help let me know.
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Brad @ SCJB

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Re: Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #45 on: November 07, 2010, 11:57:44 AM »
New supports...

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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #46 on: November 07, 2010, 01:27:04 PM »
Good job Brad...keep plugg'in away ;)
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Re: Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #47 on: November 07, 2010, 01:56:14 PM »
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Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #48 on: November 07, 2010, 04:02:00 PM »
Lookin good Brad
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Mine was stiff when working it back and forth on the trailer.
Once I got it on the water and under power, it was amazing!

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Re: Re: Crazy Eights Fall 2010 Slam Session
« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2010, 04:34:21 PM »
Fucken nice bro...give me a call next week...i get off at 2
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