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2savage4you

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2009, 05:37:19 PM »
lets see......


This is your brain :sly:




this is your brain on jet boat
1500 for paint
800 interior
1200 ride plate minimin
800 pump minimum
thats 4300 minimum yes pride in doing it yourself is great. your not doing the paint, ride plate or pump so what are you saving ???

in the end you still have a python, not saying it wont be nice but, there are more desirable hulls out there with better resale value. in the end you have a boat worth 5k.



Any questions ???
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beerjet

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2009, 12:50:00 AM »
A few years back I was going through the same thing .
Had more money than time and when I took my 20' Saguaro down to GS Marine , first words out of dudes mouth were , "Do you reeeeally like this boat?"
I wanted them to do the stringers and some other wood and glass work and Gel.
He told me I would be 10k into it  :o
I had everything for it .
Tanks , pump , motor , gauges , everything !
I took his suggestion and sat on it for a while and do some hunting around .
A couple weeks later , I ran across my Hallet for $4800 turn key .

On the other hand , by redoing your hull it'll look exactly how want it and there is compromising there .
Instead of buy something that "Catches your eye" .
Thats alot of scratch to toss around .
How long do you plan on keeping it ?
This day and age , NICE jet boats arent selling , let alone for pennies on the dollar .

-beerjet-
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i dont but im all for stuffin shit in her ass to make her go away :-*

stc315

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2009, 10:25:54 AM »
I've got a 78 Challenger, hull, fuel tanks, and dominator intake, sitting on a rough tandum axle trailer. 500.00
Shoot me some pics please.
stc315@gmail.com

Thanks,
Sam
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76 Bonneville

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2009, 12:54:57 PM »
Sam, here is a performance test from Powerboat Mag 1978
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Ralph Brunt

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2009, 01:22:22 PM »
im 95%this is a challenger, and it is in the low 100's on the squeeze. skip and jim brock will know for sure. oh yeah its a 521 bbf


i think the owners name is phillip
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CHEAP, FAST, RELIABLE...PICK 2 CANT HAVE ALL 3
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They are all fukin tasty. My long time favorite, "Dirty Dicks -beerjet-
Glasscutter, Skip, OC2  Nordie and many more nail me good every time, relentlessly, I love those guys!

76 Bonneville

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2009, 01:58:40 PM »
Pics.
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stc315

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2009, 09:21:06 AM »
It's not too bad, the only deal breaker I see on it is that its not a full stringer boat. I should be in the 600hp range, and eventually plan to go supercharged so I doubt that it could handle that.
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GT Jets

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2009, 09:46:46 AM »
You say you got a quote for paint at $1500, thats dirt cheap, what kind of paint?  The materials should be in the $1000 range.

How closely have you looked at the hull condition? I have gotten balls deep in a project, then realized there are major structural issues in the hull.

It looks like your going to be in this thing a bunch for saying it's not your dream boat...

If interested, we have a 1976 (+/-) Southwind full stringer 19' jet that is done, I mean done. New; paint (two tone rootbeer float), interior, powdercoated rail kit (set up for SBC but easy to change) dual fuel tanks, Berkeley pump w/new "B" impeller (have a new "A" if you want), droop snoot, ride plate, guages, controls, trailer paint (single axle) trailer wheels tires, gunwale moulding w/insert, pink slip for boat and trailer (cuurrently registered) and more I'm sure.

We have about $6000 in this little boat, the small block Chevy thats in it may go in my Carrera, have not decided (it's too nasty), I will try to post up some pics now that I am finally working normal hours at work, this boat is super clean and has not been in the water yet (for about the last 10 years also), if your interested in it, we could sell it to you for $3500 less engine and I can help get the motor mounts sorted out for you.

Don't get me wrong, I want to see you do this project more than anyone, have you seen my weaknesses?, but you already said you wouldn't mind getting a better boat...To me that says "I won't be very happy with it when I'm done".

I normally look for projects (actually they find me  :banghead: ) that are something that I want (Carrera) when completed, right now there are so many boats out there for sale cheap it's sort of a shame.

Please don't think I'm trying to discourage you from getting this thing done, just be sure it's what you want to do.

GT

BTW, 76, that boat had me thinking, then my wife walked in and I had a moment of clarity   :banghead:    ;D
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

76 Bonneville

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2009, 09:59:23 AM »
GT, post up some pics.
Sam, sounds like a good deal. You could part out your boat and recover some of your cost.
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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2009, 10:04:14 AM »
GT, post up some pics.
Sam, sounds like a good deal. You could part out your boat and recover some of your cost.

I will, been meaning to, but have felt like the absent minded professor lately (been there three times and keep forgetting to take the camera), I guarantee this is a good deal even in this economy, we have too damn many boats (between my dad and me, we have 7 boats and looking for another, I think we're both severely retarded).

GT
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

jrork

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #35 on: January 25, 2009, 12:48:15 PM »
You say you got a quote for paint at $1500, thats dirt cheap, what kind of paint?  The materials should be in the $1000 range.


Zactly.  Not talking you out of it and if you got a quote for $1500 that is a SCREAMING GOOD DEAL!!!!  I figured I had a touch over $2000 in materials on mine though to be fair, I was not efficent having never done it before. 

Best of luck and we're all here to help, just dont want you to go down the road and get nickle and dimed to death with costs you didnt factor in.  GT's boat sounds awesome
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Factory502

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #36 on: January 25, 2009, 12:59:20 PM »
Sam-
I emabrarked on the dream you have last year-bought an 18' Hondo v bottom- southwind bottom-  " yeah yeah yeah i want to build a badass jet boat" :banghead: the boat is upside down in my front yard not even close to being back in the water and I have already spent more on the pump than I had in the intital cost of the boat- yeah I will be able to look at it when it is done and say I built that, but if I ever sell it, it will still be a $15k boat I might be able to get $7k for- pending the economy crawls out of the sh%ter-  browse craigslist- there is so many bitchen boats that you can pick up for pennies, pedal the motor out of it so you can put your mill in it and offset the cost of the boat- not trying to piss in your cherios, just speaking out of experiance-
But if you are like any other red blooded gear head- throw caution to the wind and party like it is 1999 >:D

and I might have a line on an early 70's 18' full stringer kona on a single axle trailer for a screamin deal- let me know if intrested
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stc315

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #37 on: January 26, 2009, 09:31:06 AM »
That Southwind sounds sweet, but 3500 is way out of my range. My painter quoted $1500 for white on bottom, and black on top with blue "true"/"real" flames and blasting the trailer & shooting it white. I assume his workers are probably illegal and wouldn't be surprised if he got his materials from Mex where they don't have all the taxes, or enviro laws, not to mention "fell off the truck" specials. But I have seen his work and its pretty good. It's no Dick Vale or Mike LaValle. But he does good work. Here is a pic of what he did for us already.
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stc315

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #38 on: January 26, 2009, 09:35:24 AM »
I'm looking for one of those paint and interior are in good shape and it has no motor (maybe no pump) and it's in the way so they're lookin to get rid of it for 500-1000. I'd love to get that southwind but the best I could do on something like that is like what Tom is doing for me 1k down and payments.
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JWBOYER21

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #39 on: January 26, 2009, 10:37:22 AM »
hey sam,

i might be interested in using your paint guy later this season. where is he located?
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is it 2012 yet??
73 southwind 455 olds (in pieces)
74 kona 455 olds SOLD

stc315

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #40 on: January 27, 2009, 08:46:47 AM »
Yuma, Arizona. When you're ready, shoot me a pm and I will swing by his shop and get you his info.
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stc315

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2009, 03:31:20 PM »
Ok, here's the latest. Sold the python and am buying a 78 Record 7. Never heard of the hull but looks like eliminator bottom and liberty top. Getting a pretty good deal on it. I will post pics when I pic it up this friday. It's rough, but its definitely a better hull design than the python, plus it's full stringer.
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BOOST

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2009, 03:56:38 PM »
Nice find saw one posted up on PB site never heard of the boat untill today good luck.

GT Jets

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2009, 04:17:59 PM »
Ok, here's the latest. Sold the python and am buying a 78 Record 7. Never heard of the hull but looks like eliminator bottom and liberty top. Getting a pretty good deal on it. I will post pics when I pic it up this friday. It's rough, but its definitely a better hull design than the python, plus it's full stringer.

At the risk of sounding like a friggen dad, I think you made the right move...  ;D

GT
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

stc315

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #44 on: February 13, 2009, 07:01:38 AM »
Thanks GT, I really like the design better and think it's a faster hull than what I had. What I had was a pretty heavy hull, the Record 7 is a much lighter hull. Plus its in better condition for me. A lot less sanding  ;D and the interior is there so that should be a lot cheaper to recover. My wife isn't too happy. She really wants an open bow  :screwy: . But I'll get her a pontoon when its done and she'll be happy.
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stc315

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2009, 09:29:55 AM »
Pics!!!  ;D
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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2009, 11:28:33 AM »
Boy that looks familiar....Nice find.

Check it out  :-\



GT
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Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

stc315

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #47 on: February 17, 2009, 09:04:31 AM »
Very nice GT, someday I'll have mine lookin that good!!! I"m going to try and buff out the paint tomorrow. We'll see how that goes.
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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #48 on: March 17, 2009, 12:43:01 AM »
A quick update. buffed out gelcoat, came out ok. Painted stripes shot out. Pulled all the guages and switchs. Upon closer inspection, I've decided to replace the whole harness as well as switchs. Figure it's cheap insurance. Still need to pull seats out to have drivers fixed and to protect them from the sun. Then I need to drain tanks. I'm thinking of pulling them out so I can put new level senders in them. That's a lot of work, but it would be nice to have working fuel guages lol.
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Nordie

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Re: My Winter Project
« Reply #49 on: March 17, 2009, 06:07:45 AM »
hey sam for the gel if it came up ok with buffing, maybe you should try wet sanding...or there is this kick ass stuff i have seen called starbright...i've seen that stuff do wonders...g/l with the build and stay away from the mase!
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