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« **Reply #50 on:** March 03, 2009, 04:23:52 AM »

That is weird...Same number of teeth?

« **Reply #51 on:** March 03, 2009, 04:50:54 AM »

Yup, 15 teeth on both. Leave it to me to find something like this! I guess I'm just gonna hafta see which one fits after I prime it this afternoon. Kinda scarey though if you ask me.

Ray

« **Reply #52 on:** March 03, 2009, 05:06:12 AM »

Switch the gears

« **Reply #53 on:** March 03, 2009, 05:28:42 AM »

Yeah, tis what I planned. Only 1 roll pin. But gotta try the bigger gear and see if it will even go in first. If it goes in, it's the one!Planned to run the comp 9000 so a switch would be needed. Just wanted to know if anyone else ever saw this on BBF engines before. 1 is a Harmin marine 460 from 1976 and the other is whoever Sleekcraft used in 1978.

Ray

« **Reply #54 on:** March 03, 2009, 06:12:28 AM »

Id be willing to bet both of them will drop in, but idk either...I'm used to seeing the smaller one...

« **Reply #55 on:** March 03, 2009, 07:46:26 AM »

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...I'm used to seeing the smaller one...

That's because you hang out with Brad and Omar.

The smaller gear or smaller dizzy? lol

Ray

« **Reply #56 on:** March 03, 2009, 09:04:21 PM »

OK, got the goodies Tom sent in the boat. Hadda get a few more things, and a tap to tap out the intake for the header water line. But I think I'm plumbed! (I stress the THINK). Wiring is another matter I don't even want to get into. Gonna be a longer process than I thought on that. Maybe I can get that resolved tomorrow morning. But, and maybe Tom or 2Sav will chime in here, the Pressure releif valve Tom sent was backed all the way out. Can't really read the markings and graduations on it, but it's supposed to be 15-175 psi or something. All the way out means 15? And should I run another ball valve on the o/b dump from the Tstat housing? Also, should I, and where do you get, a water pressure guage? Have room on the Tstat cover for one if needed.

Wanted to start it on the hose today, but my Oil didn't show. (Ordered Joe Gibbs BR oil for Sunday, then HR oil for after that)

Ray

« **Reply #57 on:** March 03, 2009, 09:14:34 PM »

no the smaller gear...once again im thinking either one would probably work...why would a bbf gear not work anywhere from a 351 cleveland to 429/460 are interchangeable...i beleive the fe blocks are different, but if it came out of a 460 why wouldnt it work on another...unless there is some "special cam" out there

« **Reply #58 on:** March 03, 2009, 09:17:11 PM »

Ray,

The plumbing thing aint that hard, judging from all the other things have got done thus far it should be a cake walk for you. I just did mine for my 460 a couple weeks ago, just keep in mind, it is a much more simple design than you would think.

In answer to your question though, YES run a ball valve on your overboard dump line. Reason being: if you 'choke' your water inlet line to your motor to build temp (pretty normal thing to do right?) and you dont have a ball valve on your dump line your headers will starve for water because the now lower amount of water running through your motor is going out your dumpline....SO, if had a ball valve on your dump line you could 'choke' that and put more water back into your headers.

Does that even make sense? I swear it does to me. Maybe I'm losing it....either way, you'll get it, but the ball valve on the dump line is a must. My $.02 is in now...

Nick

« **Reply #59 on:** March 03, 2009, 09:30:18 PM »

No, It makes sense Nick. Kinda what I was thinking anyway. I tend to over analyze...... go figure after my last thread on the subject................ the physics of it all. Example, given what I have, I used the O/B dump from the bilge pump for the pressure valve outlet. Then drilled the new one in next to it, and y-ed in the bilge pump and regular o/b dump. I'm thinking I may well pump water back through the bilge pump, lol. Need to drill another o/b dump to make me happy I guess. Got too much money invested in this to trash the engine. (And NOW I bought a truck to haul the damn thing!)

Ray

« **Reply #60 on:** March 03, 2009, 09:56:07 PM »

maybe some more "ford" guys would chime in on this distributer gear issue before u drop it in....

ralph or lakes only??.....

« **Reply #61 on:** March 03, 2009, 10:09:18 PM »

Hopefully, yes. But really, if the big gear won't drop in, then the little gear is the answer, no? If it does, well then, I need to change out the gears. I only brought it up because it struck me as very STRANGE!

Never heard of this on anything before. Maybe Nostradamus was right?

?

Ray

« **Reply #62 on:** March 03, 2009, 10:19:36 PM »

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no the smaller gear...once again im thinking either one would probably work...why would a bbf gear not work anywhere from a 351 cleveland to 429/460 are interchangeable...i beleive the fe blocks are different, but if it came out of a 460 why wouldnt it work on another...unless there is some "special cam" out there

Given the same number of teeth, yes, but the diameter is my concern. The Dizzy has to mesh with the cam gear, no? If the diameter is too small, no meshy, since it's a solid rotating piece held in a concentric circle by two points. As is the cam , held in a concentric circle by 5 points. SAvvy my quagmire on this?

I know how to solve it, for me, just was wondering if anyone had seen it before. Might be one of those trhings to tuck away, might be important someday.

Ray

« **Reply #63 on:** March 04, 2009, 12:41:18 AM »

hey ray....is that red hose coming off the pump and that tee with the the cap right before the ball valve to run the motor on a hose? just wondering, since i'm finally getting ready to hit this stage.

« **Reply #64 on:** March 04, 2009, 06:58:00 AM »

Yup

Ray

« **Reply #65 on:** March 04, 2009, 08:39:56 AM »

Ray your plumbing "looks" ok to me but I have a couple questions, call me (I'm on the road this am ) re the Dizzy I'll check with Josh and get back to you ! didn't notice is this a roller or flat tappet cam deal ? Tom
Btw the pressure reg is between 12 and 15 psi all the way out , thats where i would leave it to start ' also I agree that a "dump line" needs a lever ball to create "resistance" to water flow , not always needed but usefull under some circumstances Tom

« **Reply #66 on:** March 04, 2009, 09:01:30 AM »

It's a flat tappet 305 Degree deal Tom. Crane Roller Roockers, though. I'm pretty sure I got the oil figured out, after a couple emails to Joe Gibbs Racing.

I'll call you a lil later Tom. On my way out the door to pick up my new truck

Well, new to me anyway. Will be nice to have something that can haul this cow. Shoulda seen me chaining that thing to a Grand Prix to get her in the garage! My neighbors went through a 12 pack watching that! What a Utube moment! But it WORKED! I feel like McGyver sometimes I swear.

Oh the pictures I have yet to post...........................

Ray

« **Reply #67 on:** March 04, 2009, 12:16:20 PM »

Quote from: IRRebel on March 01, 2009, 12:56:33 AM

Was questioned why I felt this necessary. Can tell you this. The kids are important to me. That, and me being the inventive person I am, this didn't meet the approval of anyone who saw it. (damn, shoulda been easy)

Ray

Ray,

Just got your message, I was out of town working on a USAC Sprint Car in Vegas and California.

I think a cattle guard would be more appropriate for your boat instead of the kid fence.

Joe

« **Reply #68 on:** March 04, 2009, 10:12:07 PM »

Didn't think of that!

Too bad I already got the panel almost finished for it.

Ray

« **Reply #69 on:** March 05, 2009, 05:53:47 AM »

Why is there a frog hanging from your stereo?

« **Reply #70 on:** March 05, 2009, 06:35:38 PM »

Where else would he be???

Ray

« **Reply #71 on:** March 05, 2009, 06:46:59 PM »

Oh, and here's what's been tying me up the last couple of days.

New Yow Vehicle. (Well first tow vehicle, really, and new to ME only, is an '06

Now to get back to my wiring......And I still gotta call Tom about the plumbing. I think he's concerned, and I love him for that!

Ray

« **Reply #72 on:** March 05, 2009, 08:13:14 PM »

Tried to find a white one. Honestly, I did. Even planned to paint it to match the boat! But no go, this was too much of a smoking deal.

Ray

« **Reply #73 on:** March 05, 2009, 08:19:52 PM »

Nice ride Ray, I guess you wont have to get a hitch for the Grand Prix.

« **Reply #74 on:** March 05, 2009, 08:26:06 PM »

I would get it painted john deer green and call it moolases

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