Maybe swap the metering block on one of the carbs end for end? fuckifikno

It is drilled for sideways mounting, Terry, I was trying to avoid that if at all possible, because to do it, it will require carb spacers at least 1 1/2" thick. I guess the simplest thing to do is to do just that and a sideways throttle linkage.

Gonna require a ladder to put the scoop on the thing, but I gotta do it!

Ray

The throttle plates on the carbs and the linkages going to the booster pump. Here's a pic of one of them sitting sideways. 'Tis why i ruled that out initially.



Not a real problem, just ordered 2" spacers and a sideways throttle linkage (That will probably need spaced up as well), Just wanted to avoid this if could be. My brother's working on another solution, I think we can do it, but gonna make a lot of aluminum chips doing it on his CNC. We can try that out later. I'd much rather have them inline if at all possible. The standard fuel lines will work in line, and I beleive I'm going to have a problem with one whole bank being rich and the other being lean with the sideways setup using non-dominator carbs. Time will tell. I'd rather have the lean condition in the middle 4 cylinders of the engine, given the Ford's firing order, I think this will produce less harmonics. Bear in mind this isn't the 8-71 you have. Wouldn't matter in a blown application.

As you can see, the throttle brackets on the shafts will not clear the intake, and it's sitting on the booster pump linkage. This was fine with my push throttle assembly on the RPM intake. May still need to go to a pull deal after I see the linkages. We'll see.

Nothing simple on these things.

Ray

fuel line

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUAL-FUEL-LINE-4150-LINE-KIT-FOR-HOLLEY-BLOWER-CARBS_W0QQitemZ380112595037QQihZ025QQcategoryZ33741QQssPageNameZWDVWQQtcZphotoQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Notice the heim joint are on the top of the throttle arm, you could cut the bottom off. You can go push or pull at the bell crank with the cable.

Thanks again Terry. As you can see though, spacers needed for these. Just gonna bite the bullet and do it, then see how she runs then. Forgot about the fuel lines, thanks for the link. If I need to reconfigure them later, we can do that. Like maybe this winter. Want back on the water with this thing, NOW!!!. What time does the UPS man come?

Oh yeah, only ordered the stuff this morning.

Kinda hard to compare my motor to yours, yours is quite unique and TIGHT! Although the thought of 8-71 motivation IS politicing heavily my mind for the Yellow One.  And it's winning votes. (AS Crewcheif cringes).
Ray

As long as you do most of your testing south of Parker we'll be fine 

Tee hee, you're safe for now.........

Hey Ray, thought of another name " Udder Estimated". Thats what i'm talking about.

I don't know, I may have "over" estimated my abilities thus far

Ray

OK, Got it worked out, I think.

Thanks Terry! Couldn't have done it without ya! Got the sideways linkage today and after figuring out how it is SUPPOSED to go on, got my mind back on what I originally wanted to do, and about 1/3 of this linkage kit made it happen. Will post pics of the final product after I machine a couple minor brackets, et al, but I think we're good to go! I'm psyched! Reversed the fuel lines, I plan to put a T for them in the gap between the runners, replacing the hose barbs with AN elbows, and maybe a pressure guage. Hooking up the throttle cable will be a slight challenge, but once I figure out where it needs to go, I'll whip up, or have whipped up, an aluminum bracket for it.

Anyone want some 2" holley spacers? I ordered them, not here yet, but not gonna need them. Hopefully, should have everything ready to go this week for the weekend!




Don't this look better, cleaner and more professional? reversed how the fuel lines are supposed to go, and it just so works they can be t'd under the plenum, with some more AN fittings. No Crap everywhere cluttering things up. Just tight to the intake and carbs! Can't wait to post pics of the final product on this. I got wood!

So much for "HAVING" to sideways mount them!

Ray

Ray

Keith you're welcome to the spacers. Still haven't arrived anyway, but, YOU gotta sell the idea to the little lady, I know NOTHING.

Got home from work and got the thing finally buttoned on the engine. Hadda modify some tools to torque the bastard, then swap the top around as it was on Backwards, But we're ready to make a couple brackets to hold the throttle cable and linkages. Also waiting on a couple AN elbows, a T fitting and some stainless fuel line, but the torturous part is done, I hope.

Did run into a problem putting the dizzy back in exactly how it came out tho, the clips that hold the cap run right into the front of the intake. So I'm gonna hafta start from scratch again on the timing and position it so it clears then redo the plug wirs on the cap. Not a big deal, but the engine cover's gotta come out for that.



Oh, And RJ sux as a chrome polisher too. Gonna hafta do it myself,,,again.....

And lots of oil in the bilge. Couldn't figure out why the water hasn't eveaporated yet. It's mostly oil. Oil level never went down, hoping it's from the impromtu oil and filter change at Mead. Will have to keep an eye on that.

Ray

Aiight, done as she can be for now. Still have to get the engine cover upholstered, other than that, ready to run. Actually idled at 900 rpm this time around! Gonna try for 800 or less for the goddam decibel Nazi's. Here's what she looks like all buttoned down tho. (No fuel lines on these pics, the fittings just arrived yesterday while I was at work, I threw them on a few minutes ago and filled the block with water and fired the cow! Cam's battery was dead, charging now.) Plan is to head to Roosevelt next Sunday with the kids.






Definately gonna need an electric, so I ordered a Holley Black and regulator when I got home today.

Ray

Thought of that, but I thought that would complicate things immensely on the linkages having the fuel inlets on the same side as the throttle plate on one of the carbs. Didn't try it, might do that once the electric pump gets here just to see, they should swap over ok., and now that I see how the linkage has to go, should actually clear.  Might actually try it now since I opened a new beer! This poor Mechanical is gonna chatter like SpongeBob with all this though!

Ray

Will the vacuum secondaries work, I'm just saying with my motor they wouldn't open up all the way,the motor wasn't making any vacuum do to the cam. 

You Lost me, U in the right thread boost? You feeling ok? Voices? a rash? Unexplained Hickeys or anything?

If this is the right thread, then I'm the one that is confused. If the secondaries don't open up all the way, it's because there's too much carb(s) for my motor, or a vacuum leak, I would guess. The switching of the bowls is not possible because the accelerator pump is only on 1 bowl, not both, so swapping them is not possible, though a great Idea! I don't expect much vacuum due to my cam as well, until at or near WOT and 4000 or so RPM, then there should be plenty!


Ray

What do i know, running the intake I have right now it makes 15 psi at the carbs I ran the tunnel ram vacuum secondaries It was like 7psi no leaks,boat ran great until about 3200 rpms  fell on its face do to no vacuum I was told do to the tunnel ram and cam setup wasn't making enough vacuum to open them up.So that was what happen to me so good luck and never mined me and the shit i say must have mad cow disease   
 BTW what the fock is this all about voices, rash ? what I fock up and say the wrong shit you got to start bashing calling me out ,let me tell you I don't play shit like that.