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Discussion => The No Wake Zone => WarZone => Topic started by: Ralph Brunt on September 18, 2007, 12:41:32 PM

Title: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ralph Brunt on September 18, 2007, 12:41:32 PM
the cj 812 boat will be laying down at this event in the interest of a points chase ;)
Title: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: MADSKILLZ on September 18, 2007, 01:31:31 PM
Whats that supposed to mean Ralph  ???
Title: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ralph Brunt on September 18, 2007, 01:38:59 PM
Whats that supposed to mean Ralph  ???
i will be only racing one boat cj72
Title: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on September 18, 2007, 01:50:22 PM
i will be only racing one boat cj72

Well so far as of today I am out of the running. I have a ton of work to do to the boat. In the first lap of the first heat we all hit some mudhens, well my hull is cracked and broken shoe bolts in the intake and a well altered impeller and shaft, not to mention the crap stuffed in the bowl and damage to the vains. I am not sure how this is going to turn out but needless to say I think the Sanger is done. :'( Way too much money needed to get it put back in shape for the race. I will post some pics latter after I go pic up some batteries. This just plain sucks ass. >:(
Title: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Marcsrollin on September 18, 2007, 01:57:23 PM
Yeah , if I knew I was gonna get my ass handed to me , I would make up a bunch of excuses to.
Title: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Marcsrollin on September 18, 2007, 01:59:29 PM
They were birds not boulders!
Title: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ralph Brunt on September 18, 2007, 02:05:22 PM
Yeah , if I knew I was gonna get my ass handed to me , I would make up a bunch of excuses to.
:o  :o  :o
Title: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: pw_Tony on September 18, 2007, 02:07:16 PM
Damn Jim! I'm gonna have to come by and take a look that shit.

I seen the shoe knocked down but shit son. I know that boat was running hard, and that's why we were baffled by why it slowed down so much but at the same RPM pretty much...
Title: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on September 18, 2007, 02:17:49 PM
Yeah , if I knew I was gonna get my ass handed to me , I would make up a bunch of excuses to.

Your right, I got my ass handed to me. All I have to do is show and run laps at the next race to take second for the season. At this point I can't even do that. Back of jack you know not of what you speak. The boat is fucked. It is a fairly thin hull and is cracked in front of the intake. Basically I won the race on Sunday, being I had a working GPS the whole time and didn't break out. :o This was a Nostalgia Jet race as far as I was told, not a Comp Jet free for all. That I would have finished second in anyway, do to rules  :o
Title: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Marcsrollin on September 18, 2007, 02:26:14 PM
yadda,yadda,yadda,waa,waa,waa!

It was a exhibition race!

I hit a seagull on the 5 doing over a hundred miles an hour head on to the winshield and did not crack it , your gonna tell me that a slow ass mud hen and you doing 60-65 you managed to crack the bottom of your hull?
Title: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on September 18, 2007, 02:28:39 PM
Basically I won the race on Sunday, being I had a working GPS the whole time and didn't break out. :o This was a Nostalgia Jet race as far as I was told, not a Comp Jet free for all. That I would have finished second in anyway, do to rules  :o

Sunday wasn't a race. It was an exhibition run. There was no winners or losers on Sunday. You were invited to put on a show, and thats just what you guys did.

You have less 3 weeks to get your boat back in order - make it happen - I hope to see you there.
Title: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on September 18, 2007, 02:50:47 PM
Brad yes there was winners, Circle Jets with the NJBA and all the folks watching the races. ;D I could not get out of there with all the folks coming and talking and saying how great the show was. We all won on this. 8)
Title: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on September 18, 2007, 02:51:53 PM
Brad yes there was winners, Circle Jets with the NJBA and all the folks watching the races. ;D

Yes, you have a point there, but you know what I meant  ;)
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on September 18, 2007, 03:00:09 PM
I split this thread off to its own and moved it to the warzone.

As you all know the points race for the Nostalgia Class is very close and the finals are coming up in less then 3 weeks, but Jim has had a wrench (or duck) thrown into his action plan.

I think smack talk is healthy and drama sells, but don't get carried away.

Just no personal attacks
No taking things personal (its the internet!)
No spineless remarks - if you dont have the nerve to say it to ones face, then dont say it here.

Just keep it friendly, we're all here for the same reason - the love of the jet boat.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ralph Brunt on September 18, 2007, 03:12:55 PM
jim let us know if and what we can do
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: JetLover on September 18, 2007, 03:20:53 PM
Where is lake ming located at?
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Marcsrollin on September 18, 2007, 03:24:35 PM
Bakersfield , California.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: 2savage4you on September 18, 2007, 03:29:36 PM
jim let us know if and what we can do





Right on Ralph ;D


Sportsmanship does not mean when someone breaks down you talk shit :o

It means you help in any way you can, If in deed you are a true sportsman.

So are you a man or a mouse? Just something to think about ;)


2sav

Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Marcsrollin on September 18, 2007, 03:39:57 PM
I am not a racer so I guess I don't need sportsmanship! >:D
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: 2savage4you on September 18, 2007, 03:45:19 PM
I am not a racer so I guess I don't need sportsmanship! >:D



Thats something you have to live with.


2sav
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: pw_Tony on September 18, 2007, 04:12:03 PM
Just came back from Jim's. Yup the boat is fucked up, if he didn't hit a mudhen then it was something else. But it's running great, just screwed stuff up on the pump.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Marcsrollin on September 18, 2007, 04:54:26 PM




Right on Ralph ;D


Sportsmanship does not mean when someone breaks down you talk shit :o

It means you help in any way you can, If in deed you are a true sportsman.

So are you a man or a mouse? Just something to think about ;)


2sav



You got enough boats laying around , lone him a pump so he can race!
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: 2savage4you on September 18, 2007, 05:05:47 PM
You got enough boats laying around , lone him a pump so he can race!



Funny you say that.

He has one on his workbench, but its trashed. Needs a complete rebuild. Along with the rest of my pumps ;D

 But believe me if i had a race pump for him.   We would be putting it in right now.

I dont race either, but i can still be a sportsman ;D


2sav
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on September 18, 2007, 05:25:28 PM
I know how much this upcoming race means to Jim.....I got my money on that he will show up. He wont go out that easy.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: beerjet on September 18, 2007, 05:51:20 PM
Yeah , Yeah , and the next guy that try's to lap me is gonna get wet too! Bitches !  >:D

-beerjet-
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ralph Brunt on September 18, 2007, 06:03:59 PM
Yeah , Yeah , and the next guy that try's to lap is gonna get wet too! Bitches !  >:D

-beerjet-
now thats funny concidering the shower you gave me, but next time, ah hell, it's all good bro
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: beerjet on September 18, 2007, 06:06:51 PM
It's the best I can do right now . Sorry .

-beerjet-
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: propless on September 18, 2007, 08:15:11 PM
Yeah , Yeah , and the next guy that try's to lap is gonna get wet too! Bitches !  >:D

-beerjet-

  Everybody cheers for the underdog !!!! GO -BEERJET- GO !!!! [attachimg=1]
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: beerjet on September 18, 2007, 10:21:28 PM
I swear they do !

-beerjet-
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Desert Rat on September 18, 2007, 10:51:02 PM
Well so far as of today I am out of the running. I have a ton of work to do to the boat. In the first lap of the first heat we all hit some mudhens, well my hull is cracked and broken shoe bolts in the intake and a well altered impeller and shaft, not to mention the crap stuffed in the bowl and damage to the vains. I am not sure how this is going to turn out but needless to say I think the Sanger is done. :'( Way too much money needed to get it put back in shape for the race. I will post some pics latter after I go pic up some batteries. This just plain sucks ass. >:(

maybe this would help you out with a pump?
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/boa/425751320.html
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on September 18, 2007, 11:28:29 PM
Everything is fixable, but I am just not sure  if I can get it done on time. I  will be grinding the crack  out tomarrow tosee  how  bad it  really is. The good thing is the trashed impeller is  my B set-up. I picked up a slab of Aluminum today so I can build a new rideplate, as mine is cracked and burnt. Yes it is burnt bad. I was able to fix the shoe, I will reinstall it latter. I am   hoping the last shaft I have sitting on the bench is usable. We will see after I put it on the lathe tomarrow.

I am flippin tired. Good night  :-\
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Marcsrollin on September 18, 2007, 11:39:59 PM
Now that is what I wanted to hear!
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on September 19, 2007, 06:51:51 AM
maybe this would help you out with a pump?
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/boa/425751320.html

what hull is that? looks just like my rogers with that steep entry....but its got a panther in it  ???

initially, i thought it was that damn tahiti again haha...


jim, glad to hear youre not out of the race for sure.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: beerjet on September 19, 2007, 03:21:52 PM
Jim aint out of no fukkin race ! He's just seting you guys up , to knock you down !  :P

-beerjet-
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Marcsrollin on September 19, 2007, 04:12:10 PM
what hull is that? looks just like my rogers with that steep entry....but its got a panther in it  ???

initially, i thought it was that damn tahiti again haha...


jim, glad to hear youre not out of the race for sure.

What this one?!?!?

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/boa/426763348.html
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on September 19, 2007, 04:20:34 PM
wasnt that guy asking $600 for it?! hahaha ...now its free  ::)
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on September 19, 2007, 05:55:44 PM
Jim aint out of no fukkin race ! He's just seting you guys up , to knock you down !  :P

-beerjet-

Well there my fine duck huntin friend, the engine is out the fin is out the pump is out, some of the glass is ground out and the pan is coming off in a few. The broken rideplate is next for removale. I am not sure if I will have it done in time. I am going to give it a shot. I hope to hear from a possible sponsor, being this is totally unexpected costs.

Talk later I have to get back to work.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on September 19, 2007, 06:03:59 PM
how about some pictures so we can understand the scale of this mess youre dealing with....
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: 2savage4you on September 19, 2007, 06:42:38 PM
how about some pictures so we can understand the scale of this mess youre dealing with....



Was down there long enough to help him pull the engine.

He's got his work cut out for him if he's gonna get the Sanger back in shape again, in time for the race.

Its a bitchen boat and i hate seeing it beat up like this.


2sav
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: jet boat performance on September 19, 2007, 08:03:49 PM
I hope to hear from a possible sponsor,

Let me know what you need ! Tom
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: beerjet on September 19, 2007, 08:12:06 PM
I hope to hear from a possible sponsor,

Let me know what you need ! Tom
I need another shirt ! My fat ass barely fits in the one I have . ;D

-beerjet-
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: propless on September 19, 2007, 09:20:00 PM
I need another shirt ! My fat ass barely fits in the one I have . ;D

-beerjet-

 Try a diet, the bigger that shirt gets the faster your boat will go !!!  :o

   go -beerjet- go   ;D ;D
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: beerjet on September 19, 2007, 09:23:44 PM
Try a diet, the bigger that shirt gets the faster your boat will go !!!  :o

   go -beerjet- go   ;D ;D
I refer to my belly as a gas tank for the sex machine  ;D

-beerjet-
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: jet boat performance on September 20, 2007, 08:03:40 PM
I refer to my belly as a gas tank for the sex machine  ;D

-beerjet-

Funny thing That how I refer to the top of my head ..a solar collector for a sex machine!! Shirts on its way ,with the distributor "condom" (size large) lol Tom
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on September 21, 2007, 10:48:19 PM
OK the pump is done except for the Sanger Ring being installed. Tom I am sending you my impeller to see if you can see what I see or think I see. As for the Hull I still have about 4hrs left of work to remove a hook/divet that I have put in doing the repair. The new shoe is constructed as well as the new rideplate. The shaft was good in the pump, only had .002 runout. Still not quite sure what really happened under there but it is almost ready for the lil 466 BBF to go back in, with its new High Flow Dynamics Oil Pump. If everything goes right it will be in the water this weekend. It will be a long road of testing to get some sort of set-up for the race.. I can say the engine was perfect at Ming and that is and was where all our problems had been prior the the NJBA Exhibition Event. I wish I could say I changed a bunch of stuff to come back out and stomp every other boat, but I will just be happy to make the event at this point. I did add a new Ginsu Knife to the boat. ;D Thanks Ducky, Scott from Persition Boat Werks.
Tony you have helped way more than I could ever thank you for, Thanks a bunch man. Steve Thanks for the help the other day yankin the engine, hope to see you back here tomarrow while we reinstall it. Paul (High Flow Dynamics)Thanks for gettin theat pump back to me, looking forward to more R&D on your products.

I am beet good night.
Jim
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on September 21, 2007, 11:48:55 PM
how about some pictures so we can understand the scale of this mess youre dealing with....


no?
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: pw_Tony on September 22, 2007, 10:24:39 PM
Well if it wasn't damage I dunno what I've been doin the last two days and nights.... must have been some bad weed I smoked  ???
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: beerjet on September 23, 2007, 12:02:15 AM
You should always whatch what you smoke if you got it from bullshit city .

-beerjet-
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Marcsrollin on September 23, 2007, 09:51:36 AM
Well if it wasn't damage I dunno what I've been doin the last two days and nights.... must have been some bad weed I smoked  ???
I never said it wasent damaged , I just said there is no way a duck caused that much damage.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on September 23, 2007, 11:56:01 AM
I never said it wasent damaged , I just said there is no way a duck caused that much damage.

Your probably right Mark, maybe I over exagerated the fact I drove right through 250 Black Duck Mudhen things just kind of pointed me in that direction. It must have been a sand bar/rockbar or a tree or maybe even the chevy anchor that Ralph through out of his boat many moons ago :o When we are all done I will have Tony or Steve post some pics, as I can not find the right batteries for my camera in this towne.

BTW- we have a few more hrs of sanding/filling to get the bottom flat again. The glass cloth that we used was a bit thicker than I am used to and we ended up with a few bumpds.

I am looking forward to using my new Ginsu Knife, these things are razzor sharpe ;D
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: 2savage4you on September 23, 2007, 01:48:14 PM

I am looking forward to using my new Ginsu Knife, these things are razzor sharpe ;D



I likey the new Ginsu :o

I will be down in a bit, im swapping trailers finally ;D


2sav
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on September 27, 2007, 11:32:54 PM

no?

OK ;D
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on September 28, 2007, 09:31:33 AM
I dont know if im seeing that right.....but is that mounted on the starboard side? if so, whats the reason for mounting it there and not center? just curious.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ralph Brunt on September 28, 2007, 12:04:24 PM
yeah i see the same thing, he must know sumthin nobody else knows. sure hope it dont hook
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: 2savage4you on September 28, 2007, 12:50:02 PM
Its centered ;D  you guy's are breathing in too much SMOG
But then again, is it?

2sav
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on September 28, 2007, 05:53:56 PM
Quote
Steve, is it windy over there ? I want to test this thing but it is blowing about 50mph here.


If you guys look real close you can see the keel line and the fin is dead center.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on September 28, 2007, 06:00:16 PM


If you guys look real close you can see the keel line and the fin is dead center.

i think whats throwing me off is the long - shorter depth fin behind it....at first look it looks like your startboard side intake fin and its lined up with that.

so you have 2 fins that are running on your keel? maybe post another picture from a different angel....or i will just check it out next weekend.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: hotrod56cars on September 28, 2007, 08:11:11 PM
Jim I couldn't help but notice that the paint on the boat'saxle is chipped? Hmmm... must be a race boat!  >:D

BTW, I think the "second fin" we're seeing is the port side intake fin and the starboard side fin isn't in the picture.   :-\
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: HDriderTH on September 28, 2007, 08:30:52 PM
Looks like a hydrofoil to me....
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on September 29, 2007, 12:20:26 AM
Jim I couldn't help but notice that the paint on the boat'saxle is chipped? Hmmm... must be a race boat!  >:D

That is Sea Goin Epoxy drippage.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 01, 2007, 01:30:51 PM
Well after some testing the engine is back out and the thrust Bearing (Thanks Tom) is being replaced, do to a strange faint humming sound as well as the wear ring to a shouldered one to tighten the pump up.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on October 01, 2007, 02:20:57 PM
stay on top of it....you got a few days left!
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 01, 2007, 09:07:14 PM
Done,  Thanks to my crew, Steve, Tony, Donna, Sherleen and Amanda. Tom thanks for the call. Well it is test time tomarrow. We will get to see how it works. Ralph thanks for the shared info.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: pw_Tony on October 01, 2007, 09:52:58 PM
Test time is always fun time  ;D
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 01, 2007, 10:23:15 PM
Not sure if we are testing  carbs too or just the new set-up. I just hope we have enough daylight. I will say this is about the most anal I have ever been when it comes to a pump. I got the # I wanted, thanks to my crew. I just hope all the hard work pays off.

The crew for the 300 is looking good we even have my crew chief coming out from Idaho. Watch for a good finish this year.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: lilrick on October 01, 2007, 10:50:16 PM
Yeah , Yeah , and the next guy that try's to lap me is gonna get wet too! Bitches !  >:D

-beerjet-
put the diverter up and hit the switches!! Front and back and side to side, gangsta style!!!
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: 2savage4you on October 02, 2007, 04:16:27 AM
put the diverter up and hit the switches!! Front and back and side to side, gangsta style!!!


 ;D LMFAO


2sav
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: MADSKILLZ on October 02, 2007, 09:35:21 AM
Hey Jim. When is your crew going to show up on race day? Just thought I would ask ;D
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 02, 2007, 10:19:48 AM
Nick, we should have a gang of folks at the races this weekend.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: MADSKILLZ on October 02, 2007, 11:39:21 AM
Great! you all ready to go now?
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: 2savage4you on October 02, 2007, 11:46:13 AM
Great! you all ready to go now?



Sure wish i could make it, But ;D i got a trailer to finish. And then i got to sand my floor and then,and then,and then one day at band camp ::)

Good luck to all ;D
I wish everyone a good safe race.

Just watch out for the GINSU :o

2sav
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 02, 2007, 11:53:31 AM
Great! you all ready to go now?

We are testing today if the wind dies down a bit, about 15mph right now.
I think we will be just fine for the race.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: MADSKILLZ on October 02, 2007, 11:56:38 AM
you should test in the wind that way you are ready for parker too ;D
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: MADSKILLZ on October 02, 2007, 11:57:35 AM
It always seems to get windy there
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: pw_Tony on October 02, 2007, 12:13:31 PM
I'm gonna do my best to make this one too!  ;)
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on October 02, 2007, 12:30:00 PM
4 days left kids...
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 02, 2007, 12:31:11 PM
you should test in the wind that way you are ready for parker too ;D

We have a different set-up for the Parker 300, wind up to 30mph and has been tested.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 02, 2007, 12:31:58 PM
4 days left kids...

Any word on Ricks test yet ?
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: MADSKILLZ on October 02, 2007, 01:34:07 PM
I havent heard anything yet ???
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on October 02, 2007, 02:05:01 PM
rick floated his phone in his pocket....but I did talk to Marc ...he met rick out there to lend him a loader.

Marc said it went good, but not great. more testing is in order thursday/friday at ming.

About Testing at Ming Thursday/Friday: Just a heads up....according to the Kern County site...

http://www.co.kern.ca.us/parks/ming.asp

Only sailboats are allowed the 2nd full weekend each month and Tuesdays and Thursdays after 1:30 pm; motorboats are allowed all other times

....so, no testing Thursday after 1:30. Cheese and wine only with your dockers and deck shoes.

Also, I hope this will incise you guys to stay in your boats:

Warnings:

    * Water skiers are at risk of developing an itchy rash from parasites in Lake Ming's untreated waters. Swimming is prohibited.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 02, 2007, 02:32:24 PM
I have had my skin burn and loose hair from that fuel puddle of a lake.

Any word on the NJBA races yet ? I will be in Parker Sat but can come up for Sunday races.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on October 02, 2007, 02:40:21 PM
Any word on the NJBA races yet ? I will be in Parker Sat but can come up for Sunday races.

no word.....and theres not very much interest due to conflicting schedules with the enduro.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 02, 2007, 03:31:14 PM
Well anyway count us in for Sunday !
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 02, 2007, 08:47:38 PM
I had a very hard time keeping it from spinning out and MPH is still down.

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=io0kkn&s=2
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ralph Brunt on October 03, 2007, 08:27:07 AM
I had a very hard time keeping it from spinning out and MPH is still down.

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=io0kkn&s=2

when i spun out at parker i called jim brock and told him what was happening and he told me to run wide, because i cant keep up with the plate boats around the pin. so if you look at the video from parker and ming i run wide so i can keep my speed and not spin. am i the fastest boat? no. but i havent spun since and i would rather be slower and live to race another day.

that being said the g-force in my boat is pretty hard as i feel as if im being ripped out of the seat when going through the corners. hell at ming i ripped two bolts out of my seat and the steering column is now looser than it was, as well i had to add a left foot blank to help support my fat ass from being pitched out.

i know we are racing but once again its all for fun and i WILL  live to race another day.
just my .02 ralph
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ralph Brunt on October 03, 2007, 08:42:15 AM
i guess what im trying to say is your pushing your boat beyond what the set up can handle and you are going to hurt yourself or somone else...... testing is fine and thats what it's for, but come race day drive within your set up as to not spin out so we can all live to race another day.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: 2savage4you on October 03, 2007, 08:45:32 AM
I had a very hard time keeping it from spinning out and MPH is still down.

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=io0kkn&s=2




That video SUCKS! Dont show chit, thats all that boat seemed to do in the turn :o

I dont think that boat could make a turn if it had its blinker on >:(

Hell i will give you that brown boat in my back yard, I bet it will turn ;D

Not trying to be hard on Jim but dam man, im bummed!


2sad :'(
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ralph Brunt on October 03, 2007, 09:11:09 AM
the boat will turn just take it wider
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: MADSKILLZ on October 03, 2007, 09:38:26 AM
Dont push your boat past its limit jim. We dont want to see you get hurt or cause an accident.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 03, 2007, 10:36:20 AM
Dont push your boat past its limit jim. We dont want to see you get hurt or cause an accident.

I am going to just run around and hang with Omar and roost anyone that tries to lap us.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 03, 2007, 10:38:16 AM



That video SUCKS! Dont show chit, thats all that boat seemed to do in the turn :o

I dont think that boat could make a turn if it had its blinker on >:(

Hell i will give you that brown boat in my back yard, I bet it will turn ;D

Not trying to be hard on Jim but dam man, im bummed!


2sad :'(


I am in the same boat with ya, but when trying different things sometimes you go the wrong dirrection. Maybe Jim Brock is right, Sangers are terible circle boats !
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 03, 2007, 10:40:15 AM
i guess what im trying to say is your pushing your boat beyond what the set up can handle and you are going to hurt yourself or somone else...... testing is fine and thats what it's for, but come race day drive within your set up as to not spin out so we can all live to race another day.

Well it looks like Rick, Omar and myself will be bringin up the rear.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 03, 2007, 10:59:08 AM
Steve I think we can dod some sanding and spray some speedcoat today. Being you are not coming out to the race get over here and get stoned off speedcoat with me. ;D
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: 2savage4you on October 03, 2007, 11:09:42 AM
Steve I think we can dod some sanding and spray some speedcoat today. Being you are not coming out to the race get over here and get stoned off speedcoat with me. ;D


But i have to get my hair cut ;D

2sav
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: 2savage4you on October 03, 2007, 11:13:11 AM
Give me a few, i will be there.

2sav
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on October 03, 2007, 11:17:09 AM
Jim,

First off, this isn't a personal attack so please don't take it that way. Even as much as I want Ralph to go out there and whoop your ass, I would tell him the same thing if he was in your boat.

I hope that you are taking your entire boat's setup back to the drawing board before this weekend to correct the issues at hand for the sake of the safety of the other racers in the class and the future of this class. After hearing your testimony as well as others from last nights test run, it seems that your boats handling has gone from bad to worse. I personally don't feel that your boat has ever handled well in the turns. I have revisited the Parker '06 and Parker '07 videos and watched you run recently out at Ming 3 weeks ago - it just doesn't turn gracefully. It would porpoise in the turns and you were violently jabbing the throttle through the turns. I admit I have no seat time in a race boat and I am strictly a bench racer at this point, but I am just telling you what I see....and it just doesn't look like it has ever handled well.

At this point, you are stating its attempting to spin out in all magnitudes of turns. As I see it, your boat is now considered an extreme risk to your safety and the others. We are going to have 7 boats out there this weekend and the water is going to be crowded. We all want a safe race.

I know you and I are on the same page as far as the expectations of the class as far as safety. I also know that we both want to see this class grow.

So in closing, I hope you continue to troubleshoot your issues and not throw in the towel by thinking its ok just to "bring up the rear". I really hope you sort these matters out because I want to see you out there safely being competitive this weekend. You have 3 nights of testing left, make em count.  ;) Best of luck to you and your crew.

-Brad @ SoCalJetBoats

As some of you know Jim and I have a history and theres some animosity between us, but we both do our best to put that behind us. This post has nothing to do with any of that and is purely my thoughts and feelings about the boat based on what I have discussed with others and what I have witnessed at the races.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: 2savage4you on October 03, 2007, 11:26:04 AM
Brad,

Its refreshing to see you care about jim the other's and all involved.

2sav
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 03, 2007, 11:29:10 AM
Yah know Brad, I think your are 100% correct and it is the worst handling boat ever made. But it is all I have so we will do some work, spay some speedcoat on the bottom and see where it puts us and go from there. I sure hope it will hang for this race. I think it may have to be taken out back and shot, this old horse has come up lame.

Just not sure what to change at this point, everything is where it should be for this boat as well as many others. I honestly think something must have happend somewhere between here and Merced. Maybe the long ride on the trailer hurt the hull. I have checked every inch and it checks out according to Sanger prints as well as all mods. I am scratching my head ?????  ::)
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 03, 2007, 12:25:41 PM
Jim,

First off, this isn't a personal attack so please don't take it that way. Even as much as I want Ralph to go out there and whoop your ass, I would tell him the same thing if he was in your boat.
Well I am not going away, but Ralph should win this race as long as he does not beet himself.

As some of you know Jim and I have a history and theres some animosity between us, but we both do our best to put that behind us. This post has nothing to do with any of that and is purely my thoughts and feelings about the boat based on what I have discussed with others and what I have witnessed at the races.

Why does this always have to come up ?
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ralph Brunt on October 03, 2007, 01:02:22 PM
Well I am not going away, but Ralph should win this race as long as he does not beet himself.
to be honest, i like to beat myself it feels good :-*
we all know i cant win and havnt won, toby just gives it away :-\ and i will try to do the same thing as allways. nick can beat me and did at ming my speed 83.7 his 78.? and he still won :-[  jim i dont know what is wrong with your boat and if i did i would tell you, just keep after it and you'll get it. i'm just concernd about being safe, and as i've said a few times today we will live to race another day
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: hotrod56cars on October 03, 2007, 01:16:27 PM
Not sure where else to put this sooo...

Anyone got any information on running a tunnel hull in circle races? I think Brad said somewhere that "back in the day" tunnels ran circle races all of the time. I've done some internet searching but have found absolutely nothing on the subject. Anyone?
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: pw_Tony on October 03, 2007, 01:19:35 PM
Not sure where else to put this sooo...

Anyone got any information on running a tunnel hull in circle races? I think Brad said somewhere that "back in the day" tunnels ran circle races all of the time. I've done some internet searching but have found absolutely nothing on the subject. Anyone?

Just do it! Who cares what other people say, go play in a lake and see if it turns. If I had the money I would be racing just for the fun of it.... with all these guys breaking out I might place decent behind the last person and still get 3rd! Maybe, mostly just smack talking. When the funds are in place I'll be comming out and playing.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on October 03, 2007, 01:29:42 PM
Not sure where else to put this sooo...

Anyone got any information on running a tunnel hull in circle races? I think Brad said somewhere that "back in the day" tunnels ran circle races all of the time. I've done some internet searching but have found absolutely nothing on the subject. Anyone?

I think i remember reading or hearing someone say Terry Valore once upon a time circle raced a tunnel....if so, he might be someone who you could talk to about it.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: MADSKILLZ on October 03, 2007, 01:41:58 PM
Yes! My dad Terry Valore did race a tunnel hull. It was a sleekcraft tunnel 20ft. He says out of all the boats he has driven it was the best handling boat. We would still be racing that boat if it didnt get destroyed in the 2005 Long Beach race.  >:(   
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on October 03, 2007, 01:45:05 PM
There ya have it rod.....

now put it in the water and turn em around! SQUAK!
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: MADSKILLZ on October 03, 2007, 02:36:06 PM
I forgot to mention that it was NOT a pickel fork
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Marcsrollin on October 03, 2007, 03:05:49 PM
Not sure where else to put this sooo...

Anyone got any information on running a tunnel hull in circle races? I think Brad said somewhere that "back in the day" tunnels ran circle races all of the time. I've done some internet searching but have found absolutely nothing on the subject. Anyone?

Supposedly a Rogers Bonniville makes an excellent circle boat! I think Terry Valore has one for sale.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on October 03, 2007, 03:09:04 PM
Supposedly a Rogers Bonniville makes an excellent circle boat! I think Terry Valore has one for sale.

ZING!
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: hotrod56cars on October 03, 2007, 03:19:36 PM
Just do it! Who cares what other people say, go play in a lake and see if it turns...

"Rumor control" says tunnel hulls would rather flip over than turn. Circle racing looks like a sh!tload of fun, dieing has never looked like fun to me. When I did have my tunnel on the water it would only do 49 mph, not exactly the kind of boat that would win races, and not fast enough for me to "feel" how it turned.

Yes! My dad Terry Valore did race a tunnel hull. It was a sleekcraft tunnel 20ft. He says out of all the boats he has driven it was the best handling boat. We would still be racing that boat if it didnt get destroyed in the 2005 Long Beach race.  >:(   

Not that I can drive as good as your Dad, I am sure not even close to as good, but that's good enough for me (an affirmative answer that it has been done). How did it get destroyed?

... SQUAK!

What does this mean?  ???
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: pw_Tony on October 03, 2007, 03:23:27 PM
How did it get destroyed?



LMAO that's kinda of an important question for racing isn't it?
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on October 03, 2007, 03:25:57 PM
I think i remember hearing about a helicopter type of incident.  ;D
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: FORKEDUP on October 03, 2007, 03:32:50 PM
"Rumor control" says tunnel hulls would rather flip over than turn. Circle racing looks like a sh!tload of fun, dieing has never looked like fun to me. When I did have my tunnel on the water it would only do 49 mph, not exactly the kind of boat that would win races, and not fast enough for me to "feel" how it turned.


your tunnel probably handles diff than my daytona, mine doesn't feel like it wants to flip but it is wicked feeling turning flat, something that took some getting used to, and i can still scare the shit out of passangers >:D
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: hotrod56cars on October 03, 2007, 03:35:12 PM
I think i remember hearing about a helicopter type of incident.  ;D

Oh, well as long as it didn't flip over...  :P

your tunnel probably handles diff than my daytona, mine doesn't feel like it wants to flip but it is wicked feeling turning flat, something that took some getting used to, and i can still scare the shit out of passangers >:D

I never got any speed out of it, but it seemed to lean "a little bit less"  ;D  than a V bottom shaped hull, but wasn't totally flat either.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: beerjet on October 03, 2007, 04:29:15 PM
I dont know if this means anything but the eliminator daytona got it roots from the mod vp boats (or so I was told ) and we all know those boats turn.

Rod , with your boat having a pod on the back , I would look into that aspect of it . I bet nobody knows and some lake test might be in order  >:D

-beerjet-
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 03, 2007, 06:57:32 PM
It sure is funny how much Omar really knows :o, as he sits back and listens more.
He has way more insight than most on this forum. But he usually refrains from coment. ::)
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: 2savage4you on October 03, 2007, 07:01:08 PM
It sure is funny how much Omar really knows :o, as he sits back and listens more.
He has way more insight than most on this forum. But he usually refrains from coment. ::)


Thats the way to do it, sit back and be a sponge, and then when its time to wring it out. Everybody gets  their ass kicked ::)

Go Beerjet Go ;D

2sav
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: beerjet on October 03, 2007, 07:28:48 PM
It sure is funny how much Omar really knows :o, as he sits back and listens more.
He has way more insight than most on this forum. But he usually refrains from coment. ::)
I believe you told me to do that like some 3-4 years ago (maybe longer), almost around this time of year too over our first phone conversation .

-beerjet-
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Marcsrollin on October 03, 2007, 08:30:20 PM

Thats the way to do it, sit back and be a sponge, and then when its time to wring it out. Everybody gets  their ass kicked ::)

Go Beerjet Go ;D

2sav

Ohhhh , how cute! Beerjet has a cheerleader!
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: 2savage4you on October 03, 2007, 08:36:55 PM
Ohhhh , how cute! Beerjet has a cheerleader!


Ah sh!t man, im sorry i didnt mean to step on your feet. You can take it from here ;D

Cheer on DUDE.

2sav
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Marcsrollin on October 03, 2007, 08:39:19 PM
I wouldent want you to get your pom pom's all ruffled for no reason , continue your doing a good job.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: 2savage4you on October 03, 2007, 08:42:41 PM
I wouldent want you to get your pom pom's all ruffled for no reason , continue your doing a good job.


Ah thanks man, I just had them fluffed too, and added some sparkle to them ;D

But i aint doing no back flips or nothin, thats for the younger  one's.

2sav
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: hotrod56cars on October 03, 2007, 09:19:36 PM
... Rod , with your boat having a pod on the back , I would look into that aspect of it . I bet nobody knows and some lake test might be in order  >:D
-beerjet-

Agreed. However the boat would need to go faster than 49 mph to place in the top 3. Actually, that 49 mph thing might be an assett!  >:D  This is a smack talking thread, right?   :D  Feels kind of wrong to talk smack seeing as how I've never raced boats in circles...   :(  Maybe next year...   :P
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: hotrod56cars on October 03, 2007, 09:25:36 PM
Here's a stupid question.

Does a tunnel hull that races in circles still use a fin? Seems like the tunnels in the hull would help with that part... (sound of silence fills the air)
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: beerjet on October 03, 2007, 09:55:20 PM
Wizards boat did .

-beerjet-
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 04, 2007, 09:11:58 AM
Steve, Tony and anyone else, all the changes on the hardware are done, we need to hit the river ASAP to test. Anyone have some spare time today ? I would like to do this as early as possible so if needed we can make changes.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: 2savage4you on October 04, 2007, 09:16:02 AM
Steve, Tony and anyone else, all the changes on the hardware are done, we need to hit the river ASAP to test. Anyone have some spare time today ? I would like to do this as early as possible so if needed we can make changes.



Well i am on vacation ;D

im just gonna try to get that trailer in order today.



2sav
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: MADSKILLZ on October 04, 2007, 09:47:20 AM
My dads boat got destroyed when another boat turned too soon in front of him and my dad drove right over the top of him, took the top of the guys blower off putting a big hole in the bottom of our boat and doing a 180 about 6ft in the air and landing backwards in the water. The impact also split the deck off the bottom of the boat. No one was hurt!
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 04, 2007, 10:00:33 AM
My dads boat got destroyed when another boat turned too soon in front of him and my dad drove right over the top of him, took the top of the guys blower off putting a big hole in the bottom of our boat and doing a 180 about 6ft in the air and landing backwards in the water. The impact also split the deck off the bottom of the boat. No one was hurt!

And that is the deck on the 288 boat now !

Those damn V-drivers :o
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 04, 2007, 10:42:48 AM


Well i am on vacation ;D

im just gonna try to get that trailer in order today.



2sav

Steve I will see you at the ramp in about 20min. Lets see if this thing will work.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: 2savage4you on October 04, 2007, 10:55:16 AM
Steve I will see you at the ramp in about 20min. Lets see if this thing will work.


I will be there, hurry up!



2sav ;D
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on October 04, 2007, 11:25:44 AM
Apparently, Jim is making up everything and he thinks his boat is running/turning great, but he is misleading everyone to believe its spinning out all over the course. You have gone so far as to bring extreme concerns to others in the class.

I have been forwarded a link to video on how his boat REALLY turns  ::) , but its been since removed or else I would post it.

Yes, Jim, you might think your boat is turning well, but as I stated before, it never has turned well and I don't believe it ever will.

For the sake of safety of all who are racing along side you - I hope you do not pull any further stunts.
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: MADSKILLZ on October 04, 2007, 11:41:01 AM
no worries here. I will be ahead of him anyways!  ;D
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 04, 2007, 02:21:35 PM
Isn't this a smack talk thread ?

Here is the video that Brad could not get to come up;
http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=vnhuog&s=2
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: hotrod56cars on October 04, 2007, 07:18:03 PM
Cool video Jim. Who's the passenger?
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 04, 2007, 08:06:48 PM
Cool video Jim. Who's the passenger?

That is Lil Miss Dynomite !
Title: Re: SCSC 2007 Season Finals Smack Talk Thread
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on October 04, 2007, 08:22:53 PM
Here are a few test videos;

Plane ET test
http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=34dswgl&s=2
Tight turn with WOT exit
http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=28jgspx&s=2
Checking pump hook-up
http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=fm6iok&s=2
Plug check
http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2lszfah&s=2
A little run by the jetty
http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=29estp4&s=2
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