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82 Eliminator Sprint
« on: September 26, 2013, 08:08:14 AM »
Hey guys! im new to the site but ive been looking around it for the past few months and checking out the videos. i just picked up my first boat and am excited to have a project. its an 82 eliminator sprint less motor and seems to be in decent shape. it has a berkeley jg pump (split bowl i believe) that is set back 3 1/2" and just the standard nozzle, it also came with a semi pro open center loader. id like to pick up a droop snoot and hydraulic place diverter for it. the pump is complete parts wise but not together so any advice on where i can get the pump put back together or who can show me because i have no experience with them and want it done right. the hull is in ok shape, theres a couple stress cracks on the bow and it could definitely use a good buff but im thinking about having a buddy of mine paint it and help me freshen up the supports and little fiberglass stuff inside. i got some parts with the boat like motor mounts for a bbc, an alternator, starter, rewarder headers, gas pedal and a few other misc parts. as far as a motor goes i think im going to find a 2-3k dollar donor boat with a complete 454 or bigger and using what ever i can from it and sell whats left over. i just got the boat about a week ago so first on the agenda is getting the pump back together and the hole around the pump taken care of, the guy i got it from had some 1/4" aluminum he cut out for it but it will block off the clean out and im not sure if thats a good idea or not. any advice, tips constructive criticism or help would be greatly appreciated. my goal is to have it ready for next summer and get it on the river and meet some of you guys!
                                                                                                                           Thanks Ryan







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Just Electric

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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2013, 10:33:24 AM »
nice find.id put a pump brace on it since these boat are only 1/4 inch layups and no wood transoms.the pump is set back and from the looks of the pics the botton part of the rear of the boat is gone due to the set back.just a safety percausion
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Beaveretriever

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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2013, 11:14:44 AM »
nice project. Welcome to SCJB. I would agree with JustElectric and the pump brace idea. I never put one in my Daytona and it is a super light lay up. The pump is also set back and I can see where the bottom of the boat is starting to crack a little bit.

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rhino

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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2013, 12:46:11 PM »
good deal. ill definitely look into that. is that a fairly common item you can buy or more of a custom fab thing? i have a buddy who has a plasma table but hes in vegas... you guys know anyone in the IE who could fab one up and maybe the cover around the pump?


and you guys are referring to something like this?
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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2013, 12:59:38 PM »
that's it. It doesn't need to get that fancy around the bottom of the intake though. If you are going to move your motor forward, putting the brace on the front intake bolts is the best spot ( there is more leverage there) but your intake bolts need to be long enough. They are installed from the bottom. If they are already to short, don't take them out, just run a brace like you have pictured



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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2013, 01:50:23 PM »
Hit up MadSkillz here on the site....he can make you one no problem  :thumbup: Hes located in Covina

Cool looking project and welcome to the site  :thumbup: :beer:
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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2013, 07:30:05 PM »
Hit up MadSkillz here on the site....he can make you one no problem  :thumbup: Hes located in Covina

Cool looking project and welcome to the site  :thumbup: :beer:

 Thanks Ill hit him up. From the pics ive seen it looks like he does some pretty nice work.
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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2013, 08:20:30 PM »
Looks like your Sprint has the narrow stringers---1x instead of 2x  material-- That is pretty rare. I suspect the pump setback may be factory as the only other narrow-stringer Sprint I know of also had a factory setback. That boat is owned by Jim DeBoard who posts as Howler439 over on Performance Boats. You might want to contact him and compare notes.

Could we get a pick of the transom just below the pump as well as a shot of the bottom going forward from transom.

Oldsquirt---another Eliminator Sprint owner
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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2013, 08:30:30 PM »

Looks like your Sprint has the narrow stringers---1x instead of 2x  material-- That is pretty rare. I suspect the pump setback may be factory as the only other narrow-stringer Sprint I know of also had a factory setback. That boat is owned by Jim DeBoard who posts as Howler439 over on Performance Boats. You might want to contact him and compare notes.

Could we get a pick of the transom just below the pump as well as a shot of the bottom going forward from transom.

Oldsquirt---another Eliminator Sprint owner
i agree I tried to get ahold of jim his sprint hauls the mail I wanted to pick his brain a little but all I got is his pump was set back 3 inches and that was it


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rhino

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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2013, 09:03:19 PM »
Interesting. Yeah ill try to get some pics of that up tomorrow and you can tell me what you think. The guy i got the boat from told me he did some of the work himself but had the pump set back professionally. Honestly who knows... people tell all kinds of storys. And weather or not it actually was a factory setback, is that something i would be able to contact eliminator and find out?
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Just Electric

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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2013, 09:39:34 PM »
Take some pics of your suction housing from under the boat and loader grate quorums to see the set up on it. These boats don't like that much hardware thrown at em and you can get them to run fairly dry with some easy mods. I got mine pretty close to where I want it to ride at the big end just need to ad some more hp to my equation.


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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2013, 02:11:32 PM »
Looks like your Sprint has the narrow stringers---1x instead of 2x  material-- That is pretty rare. I suspect the pump setback may be factory as the only other narrow-stringer Sprint I know of also had a factory setback. That boat is owned by Jim DeBoard who posts as Howler439 over on Performance Boats. You might want to contact him and compare notes.

Could we get a pick of the transom just below the pump as well as a shot of the bottom going forward from transom.

Oldsquirt---another Eliminator Sprint owner

heres a few pics

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rhino

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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2013, 02:33:12 PM »
Take some pics of your suction housing from under the boat and loader grate quorums to see the set up on it. These boats don't like that much hardware thrown at em and you can get them to run fairly dry with some easy mods. I got mine pretty close to where I want it to ride at the big end just need to ad some more hp to my equation.


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Hope this is what you were looking for. Did the best i could... and a few shots of the loader ive got for it.
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Just Electric

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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2013, 02:36:39 PM »
Nice it's set up for a ride plate but no shoes that's probably why your older isn't cut back so it bites harder to load the pump. I'm running a similar loader myself but cut it down so it's at the keel height I want.


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rhino

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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2013, 02:58:47 PM »
Good deal. Like i said this is my first boat, so if you see anything that doesnt look right dont be afraid to point it out. But the more you guys like it the better i feel about it cauz this is the way i got it. Probably gonna start in on it next week.
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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2013, 06:21:52 PM »
Be sure you have someone  knowledgable look at the loader before you run it.  It will more than likely need to be cut down for the boat to run and shut down correctly. Ask me how I know. ha ha...

Nick @ Madskills will fabricate some nice pieces for you !!!

There are some very informed guys on this site regarding that specific type of hull and a few shops in the So Cal area that can help.

In no particular order !!!!!

B1 Racing
GS Marine
R&D Marine
Cyclone Speed & Marine

Any of these guys can point you in the right direction,and help with your project
Welcome to SCJB !   Good people all around.
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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2013, 06:52:32 PM »

Be sure you have someone  knowledgable look at the loader before you run it.  It will more than likely need to be cut down for the boat to run and shut down correctly. Ask me how I know. ha ha...

Nick @ Madskills will fabricate some nice pieces for you !!!

There are some very informed guys on this site regarding that specific type of hull and a few shops in the So Cal area that can help.

In no particular order !!!!!

B1 Racing
GS Marine
R&D Marine
Cyclone Speed & Marine

Any of these guys can point you in the right direction,and help with your project
Welcome to SCJB !   Good people all around.
and I don't know anything about delta bottoms danny :) j/k most the people danny is talking about I got most my info from especially uncle Brock


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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2013, 06:59:34 PM »


B1 Racing
GS Marine
R&D Marine
Cyclone Speed & Marine


I would add Jack at MPD in Costa Mesa

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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2013, 07:45:45 PM »
Well I'm gonna pipe in as a fellow sprint owner and say don't paint it. I bought my boat complete but gel was in very similar condition, do some research and try to wet sand/polish it, original is always better if feasible. I spent three weeks wet sanding/polishing mine and gonna cap it this winter, gotta keep up with the joneses or at least JE:). It's an awesome hull and will haul a$$ with a decent mill


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Just Electric

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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2013, 07:52:46 PM »

Well I'm gonna pipe in as a fellow sprint owner and say don't paint it. I bought my boat complete but gel was in very similar condition, do some research and try to wet sand/polish it, original is always better if feasible. I spent three weeks wet sanding/polishing mine and gonna cap it this winter, gotta keep up with the joneses or at least JE:). It's an awesome hull and will haul a$$ with a decent mill


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know nothing Sean :)


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rhino

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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2013, 09:05:47 PM »
Be sure you have someone  knowledgable look at the loader before you run it.  It will more than likely need to be cut down for the boat to run and shut down correctly. Ask me how I know. ha ha...

Nick @ Madskills will fabricate some nice pieces for you !!!

There are some very informed guys on this site regarding that specific type of hull and a few shops in the So Cal area that can help.

In no particular order !!!!!

B1 Racing
GS Marine
R&D Marine
Cyclone Speed & Marine

Any of these guys can point you in the right direction,and help with your project
Welcome to SCJB !   Good people all around.

Thanks guys i really appreciate all the pointers. Its really giving me some direction!
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rhino

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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2013, 09:18:15 PM »
Well I'm gonna pipe in as a fellow sprint owner and say don't paint it. I bought my boat complete but gel was in very similar condition, do some research and try to wet sand/polish it, original is always better if feasible. I spent three weeks wet sanding/polishing mine and gonna cap it this winter, gotta keep up with the joneses or at least JE:). It's an awesome hull and will haul a$$ with a decent mill


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I hear you on the gel coat.. but if you look at the 5th pic down on my original post on the left side of the boat near the fuel cap theres a section there thats been painted. Its only where the silver is but its about 3-4 ft long. and then on the side of the boat(same area just the bottom side of the rub rail) but that section is only about 2 ft long and is again only in the silver. So im interested to see when i sand that off what is under there. Plus the underside of the boat is also painted which is not really noticeable. And your paint scheme is slightly more attractive lol. But i probably will try to sand/buff it to see how it comes out before i throw the money at paint. Plus paint is last on the long list of things i need to do. Glad to hear they run good also. It really didnt seem like there was alot of sprints out there when i was kind of researching but now all your guys are coming out of the woodwork!
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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2013, 09:28:15 PM »
I'm lookin at your pics on my phone so not very detailed, but looks like an original gel but who knows I guess.  Look at my build thread in the projects section and then you can see what I had to do, 7 solid months of hard work but it's worth it.  The first season you'll chase the fine tuning stuff as I have done but it's a labor of love👍


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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2013, 11:59:36 PM »
I'd try to buff and cut it to see if you can bring back to life before throwing money at it. You'd be surprised what a difference it makes and use the money towards your mill and set up where the money counts. Looks to me no spider package and skinny stringers in it so with that said someone tried to shed Wieght for a race app on the boat. I'm sure you will decide what your best interest is and go from there but you have a nice piece for a starting point. I'm vpurios to see what it weighs I know how heavy might boat is and most sprints are pretty light to begin with according to Greg shoemaker who laid most of them up


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Re: 82 Eliminator Sprint
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2013, 08:58:22 AM »
Yeah i think ill cut and buff it like you guys are saying and see how it turns out before i throw and money at paint. Im gonna start on the jet next week and get that together, i also have a ride plate for it but i have to drill tap the bowl to install it, and then get the aluminum work around the pump done and get a pump brace made. There will be plenty of progress pics. I also noticed the boat has a boost gauge so someone had a blower motor in it at one point. I wish i could put another one in it but as of right now i dont have an extra 10-15k lying around to buy a motor. And the boat is incredibly light from what i can tell, what is the spider package you guys are talking about? does your boat have it and do you have any pics?
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