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82daytona

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Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #50 on: July 06, 2008, 06:21:01 PM »
SSHHHHH!

Its not a bribe, its special interest lobbiest campaign contributions, which if done right, are tax deductable ;)
well put

lilrick

  • Karma: +8/-1
Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #51 on: July 06, 2008, 09:07:22 PM »
One less seadoer! About a million more togo! Now for those pesky wakeboard boats...... :banghead:
So if she's HOT, would you feel up a dead chick??
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lilrick

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Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #52 on: July 06, 2008, 09:14:27 PM »
seadoer or not someone died thats a really low thing to say  :-[
AHHH....It's Darwinism at its finest. Survival of the fittest. She wasn't meant to breed..... I can be just as sappy and sad as anyone else , but without a different point of view this thread would suck. Atleast it has somebody to hate now. Every thread needs an A-hole.
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OC2Vegas

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Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #53 on: July 06, 2008, 09:25:13 PM »
and now the 14 year old has died also.

http://www.havasunews.com/articles/2008/07/06/news/doc48718dbdaff2e375614783.txt

The police havent listed who is at fault between the kids and the boater and the accident is still under investigation.
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Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #54 on: July 06, 2008, 09:55:18 PM »
AHHH....It's Darwinism at its finest. Survival of the fittest. She wasn't meant to breed..... I can be just as sappy and sad as anyone else , but without a different point of view this thread would suck. Atleast it has somebody to hate now. Every thread needs an A-hole.

Dude you're gonna (or should) feel like shit if you find out some dumbass drunk fuker just flat out ran them over, happens all the time, just saying...anytime something like this occurs, it effects the entire boating community, not just one small inconvenient part of it, I realize you are just trying to get a rise out of people, but I am a firm believer in carma, you don't even want this one to count. IMO........
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

lilrick

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Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #55 on: July 06, 2008, 10:11:22 PM »
Dude you're gonna (or should) feel like shit if you find out some dumbass drunk fuker just flat out ran them over, happens all the time, just saying...anytime something like this occurs, it effects the entire boating community, not just one small inconvenient part of it, I realize you are just trying to get a rise out of people, but I am a firm believer in carma, you don't even want this one to count. IMO........
So, would you feel up a HOT , fresh-dead chick or not?
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Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #56 on: July 06, 2008, 10:14:13 PM »
Wow!
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
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lilrick

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Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #57 on: July 06, 2008, 10:14:22 PM »
Dude you're gonna (or should) feel like shit if you find out some dumbass drunk fuker just flat out ran them over, happens all the time, just saying...anytime something like this occurs, it effects the entire boating community, not just one small inconvenient part of it, I realize you are just trying to get a rise out of people, but I am a firm believer in carma, you don't even want this one to count. IMO........
DUDE, my karma is +6 right now. Even if this subtracts one karma I still have 5.
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Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #58 on: July 06, 2008, 10:19:41 PM »
Oh yeah, forum karma, thats what was meant! Wow again....
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82daytona

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Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #59 on: July 07, 2008, 05:28:53 AM »
Wow!
x2 thats all i have for you rick get back to us when your friend/family are killed

jet boat performance

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Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #60 on: July 07, 2008, 08:18:28 AM »
Truly a terrible tragedy , condolences to the family !

re PWC's ,Operator error,intoxication,poor supervision lack of saftey equiptment and little or no training or respect for waterway rules lead to constant "accidents", some of the worst are people's kids and guest's , they give them a PWC and a "short course" and cut them loose to ride amoungst power boats , You rarley see a kid on a dirt bike riding down (or the wrong way) on the freeway  Tom

BTW I know and respect Rick and I know that he cares deeply for his family as well as fellow boaters

 
« Last Edit: July 07, 2008, 08:23:52 AM by jet boat performance »
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HDriderTH

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Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #61 on: July 07, 2008, 09:32:27 AM »
Like on one of the other posts, the guy passes the race boat at 80+ driving w/ one hand and obviously not looking where he's going. Should I let kids drive my 100 MPH flatty? You can putt around all day long but how soon do you think they'd be doing 80, 90 or more? Do you realize how fast a boat at that speed can get away from you? I've been a 13 yr old kid on that river driving boats, we went where we were supposed to go at the speeds we were told to go, on the right side of the river. People these days just dont care. No common sence, and they get killed for it, or kill you or your family.
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tofastforu

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Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #62 on: July 07, 2008, 11:36:53 AM »
thats a Fucked up thing to say that was someones kids i have to little kids if that happend to my kids i would spend every last breath hunting that fucker down and killing him slowly no matter what or who was at fault he was in the boat he should have paid more attention and  maybe the dad that lost his little girl will read this thread or a freind of his and kick your fucking ass for saying such a thing i know this will probley be edited by brad  but hopefully he will ad to it
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Marcsrollin

  • Karma: +33/-0
Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #63 on: July 07, 2008, 11:59:03 AM »
Giving a kid a pwc and letting them out on the river is the same as giving your kid a go kart and letting them play on the freeway!!

Parents need to think alot more before they LET their kids do things!!
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2savage4you

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Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #64 on: July 07, 2008, 12:18:44 PM »
 I think this is a tragic way for us to remember that we are the one's that have to watch out for the other guy...... Same as in a car driving down the road, it happens to dam fast....   Kids or grown adults, it just happens 

I listened to the radio today, dont know who got it confused radio/news paper?  But they say its still under investigation and that the "14" year old is in Las Vegas in extremely critical condition :'(

 I just want to grab my kid , give her a hug tell her i love her..

Cause you just never know when the shits gonna hit the fan......

Im venting.
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crewchief22

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Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #65 on: July 07, 2008, 12:29:26 PM »
I feel that PWC riders under 18 should be required to take a mandatory training and safety class in a controlled invironment (lake) and be issued a certificate to be carried when riding  (after that I agree that it would be to costly to maintain and police such a program).

I know that when you buy a new quad the manufacturers/dealers will send you to a rider training class, if you want to go (no mater how old or experienced you are).

When I saw the Havasu news paper with the article about the accident I bought a paper just to make my 10 year old daughter read it and think about those girls when she does get the opertunity to ride one.


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2savage4you

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Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #66 on: July 07, 2008, 12:36:55 PM »
When I saw the Havasu news paper with the article about the accident I bought a paper just to make my 10 year old daughter read it and think about those girls when she does get the opertunity to ride one.


Way to go ;)

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Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #67 on: July 07, 2008, 12:55:18 PM »
thats a Fucked up thing to say that was someones kids i have to little kids if that happend to my kids i would spend every last breath hunting that ****** down and killing him slowly no matter what or who was at fault he was in the boat he should have paid more attention and  maybe the dad that lost his little girl will read this thread or a freind of his and kick your ******* ass for saying such a thing i know this will probley be edited by brad  but hopefully he will ad to it

i wont edit your post because thats how you feel and i respect that. Rick said how he felt and respect was given.

now im sure the parent has better things to do other than read our forum, that being said, it is ultamatly the parents fault for letting the kid get on the damn thing. as it would be mine or yours.


if there is one more post where violence is metioned i will lock the thread.
thank you ralph
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pw_Tony

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Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #68 on: July 07, 2008, 01:39:39 PM »
I feel that PWC riders under 18 should be required to take a mandatory training and safety class in a controlled invironment (lake) and be issued a certificate to be carried when riding  (after that I agree that it would be to costly to maintain and police such a program).

I know that when you buy a new quad the manufacturers/dealers will send you to a rider training class, if you want to go (no mater how old or experienced you are).

When I saw the Havasu news paper with the article about the accident I bought a paper just to make my 10 year old daughter read it and think about those girls when she does get the opertunity to ride one.




One thing I noticed up on this part of the river, is that kids on jet skis don't get nearly as checked by the police, as they do down on Martinez. I see people doing illegal stuff everyday on the river here infront of cops, but not much being done unless you have open headers
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stc315

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Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #69 on: July 08, 2008, 07:21:56 PM »
Our prayers for the families of the 19 & 14 year olds. As we sat on the sandbar Sunday, we watched (with much satisfaction) the Sheriff's patrol pull over several pwcs for jumping wakes. But unfortunately they missed the dumb jet boat operator (with a rooster) who dang near ran a pwc over while passing the pwc and a pontoon boat. The pwc never saw it coming and the rooster knocked him off. Now I hate lake lice as much as the other guy when they are in the wrong, but I also feel sorry for them when they are obeying the rules and get jacked up by one of us doing something wrong!!!
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lilrick

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Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #70 on: July 10, 2008, 08:37:07 AM »


When I saw the Havasu news paper with the article about the accident I bought a paper just to make my 10 year old daughter read it and think about those girls when she does get the opertunity to ride one.



That's about the best thing that has come from this thread , I'll have to remember to do the same to my brats.
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TJS Nordic

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Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #71 on: July 10, 2008, 09:00:17 AM »
In CT there is a mandatory Boating/PWC class before even getting on the water. If you get pulled over without one it is a 250.00 fine and booted off the lake/river/sound.
I am not saying this is the fix all cause I still see stupid activity with boaters as well as PWC's.
Once you pass the course they should also have a full day course in trailering your PWC/Boat. Esp. dock ettiquete and backing your Boat/PWC up.

T.J.

GlassCutter

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Re: 19 year old girl killed...
« Reply #72 on: July 10, 2008, 02:27:17 PM »
The real problem here is very similar to what you will experience when you go snow skiing nowadays.  Too many people crowded into too small of area exacerbated (look it up) by the fact that skiers and boarders enjoy doing two different things.  Jet skis aren't much fun when driven like boats.  They are only fun when turning, jumping, sliding, spinning etc.  In other words when doing anything other than going in a straight line.  Snow boarders make much wider turns, always look for something to "trick" off of AND can't stop very fast.  Does that sound familiar?   Skiers when going slow to medium speeds can carve much tighter turns, and indeed a tight turn is a lot easier on the legs than a long gradual turn.
The result is lots of collisions caused in much the same way as on the water.
I would support boater education for all but it won't make the problem go away. 


And Lilrick -- STFU          There is a time and place for joking but this ain't it ya tool.
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